tanjent Posted February 1, 2002 Hey freex! I'm trying to fast at the moment in preparation for a syrian rue/dmt combo, and would luv to hear any advice/suggestions of the best amount of time to fast for, any foods(which arent on the NO-No list ofcourse)that ppl have found useful to eat during the fast, just to keep the stomach acids at bay.. thanx! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chemical Shaman Posted February 1, 2002 heeeeee your going to get in all sorts of trouble for this. People will try and tell you that this post can be used against you in court and bla bla bla but you need not worry. Nobody gets arrested for drug "use" , people get done for drug dealin , drug manufacture , posession of drugs etc but NOBODY gets arrested for drug use. I know this doesn't help at all with your question but the only advice i can offer is "Stick it to em!". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanjent Posted February 1, 2002 Originally posted by Chemical Shaman:heeeeee your going to get in all sorts of trouble for this. I apologise for the miscommunication ppl I forgot to mention that I have been preparing for the experience mentioned above, strictly in my dream states You'll all be glad to know that I'm making remarkable progress with my lucid dreaming techniques and astral travels. Phew that was a close call, I'd hate to do anything illegal in this reality, as I have utmost respect and admiration for the Police force, they are such an open minded hip radical bunch of people! sorry if I violated any rules, S.A.B administrators I'm relatively new here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coin Posted February 1, 2002 whatever! [This message has been edited by coin (edited 01 February 2002).] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chemical Shaman Posted February 1, 2002 yeah I read it , and yeah it has nothing to do with what im talking about. Nothing at all. To prove it I just called up Crime-Stoppers and told them I could supply them with the address of somebody I knew that smoked a joint in high-school. I thought they wouldn't care but within 15minutes they had seven police helicopters and 5 squad cars out the front of his house. Althought it's been over 5 years since he smoked the joint , and they found no drugs in his house or blood and urine they were able to lock him up for 7 years based on my statement that I saw him smoke a joint a few years ago. Im glad all the murderers , rapists and thieves were on holiday today so that the police could devote all that time and all those resources into busting a drug user. Now im going to go and delete all the posts where I have mentioned using drugs because I heard they invented some sort of device that can not only get your i.p but pinpoint your exact location when the i.p was logged , and if it's anywhere near where your computer was then LORDY your in some trouble. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gem Posted February 2, 2002 hi tanjent, my iguana has made pyschotria and rue extractions on a couple of occasions and had wonderful yet inexpressible effects. He had done some reading on MAOIs and foods to avoid etc - pretty useless he considers. With the rue/dmt extracts he fasts for the day before taking. I think there is more up-to-date info out there about MAOIs and food contraindications - perhaps not as scary as one might be lead to believe; although if you go to some of the more specialist ayahuasca pages you will find descriptions of aya rituals (and what food the initate ate beforehand etc - quite bland foods). Oh and I actually have a shitload of moclobemide tablets and I'd be really interested to hear other's thoughts on a pharmahuasca - I've already read the only posts here that the search bought up. My iguana tends to prefer the rue as he feels it brings more than just a chemical inhibition to the experience, but he'd be very interested to generate a discussion on this. Rev - care to expand on that AFAOF story re rue & orally active dmt being scary? I'm interested in re-reading Rev's thread about rue extracts combined with orally active DMT being scary - sounds like my iguana's last adventure... tanjent, dunno if that helps you any but you are welcome to email Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tanjent Posted February 2, 2002 cheers Chemical Shaman, i've heard of what happens to those 'joint' smokers. i'll be more careful .i really dont wanna do another stretch Gem, say hi to that ole iguana, i'll look in to what u suggested. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Torsten Posted February 5, 2002 Originally posted by Chemical Shaman: People will try and tell you that this post can be used against you in court and bla bla bla but you need not worry. Nobody gets arrested for drug "use" , people get done for drug dealin , drug manufacture , posession of drugs etc but NOBODY gets arrested for drug use. Oh dear, another CS post steeped in ignorance and attitude. I really don't care if you choose to only learn from your own experiences rather than also from others, but please don't give false advice to newbies that may endanger their safety!!! Fact is you are wrong. Police DOES NOT have discretionary powers, except in some states relating to pot and bongs. There is no discretionary power for ecstacy or heroin. if a policeman sees you taking an 'e', and he has reasonable cause to believe you were taking an illegal substance, then he can and will arrest you. In Sydney they do it at raves all the time. The undercover pigs (i guess you'd call them moles) just hang around until they spot someone taking something, they inform their co-workers who then make the arrest. The person is then taken away, searched for drugs and if they don't have anyting on them they are taken for a bloodtest. In any case, they are usually out the gate in a matter of seconds. The 'mole' stays undetected and continues. I used to make a sport out of spotting them and warning people. And if you think Melbourne is any different, think again. I have seen them operate and I know people who got blood tested after beeing dragged out of Winterdaze. This is a few years ago and I was under the perception this practice had stopped, but then a few months ago the puppy squad made a handful of arrests in northern NSW (pitiful for the amount of money they wasted), and one of the people got charged for ....get this.... administering an illegal drug. So I thought, tough shit he got done for giving someone a toke or helping to inject smack. No, he was actually injecting himself. After discussing this with friends in sydney I was told that the arrests and tests at raves are still going on. Furthermore, police HAS to act on reliable information. if you have reliably informed police on other occasions, or if your version of events can be corroberated by another (preferably independent) individual, then police MUST follow it up. Complaints are regularly made to the review board about such matters not being followed up and officers are penalised. In many cases where no action was taken these are parents dobbing their kids in. I had a friend who had two officers search his room after his parents saw him wrapping stinking roger (looks/smells like pot to a novice) in foils as a joke (they didn't find the e's in his pillow ). What they cannot do much about are statements like "I took 10 pills last night", or "I was really wasted on pot last week". However, confessions are usually regarded as 'reliable source'. That means, that any information given on the forums or in chat can be viewed as reliable and thus the police do not need any other evidence to obtain a search warrant. The public admission of having taken an illegal drug is enough inference that you may be in possession of this or any other drug. And if you thought that you are safe hiding behind your ISP IP number, then please explain how they caught the Love bug virus author!!??!! Sure, much of it is safer than the general paranoia that exists, but it is usually only safe if you know what you're doing. Chances are, if someone is asking a security question on these forums, that he doesn't know enough to protect himself. As for you further replies, I think you need to meditate / lay off drugs / fall in love, or something like that, cos it's just not funny anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
somnif Posted February 5, 2002 There is little security of hiding behind an IP address - even as far back as 1996 (light years ago in 'net terms) I know of cases where System Adminstrators (at a Victorian University) being told to dig through caches and logs my law enforcement officers. You can imagine what techniques might be used now. While evidence such as this might not be used directly against in court, there are a 1000 reasons why this is "not a good thing". I am not saying to be paranoid, just be aware of what sort of trails you leave and where. The following link may, or may not have some good discussion on anonyminity and privacy on the net: https://www.the-hive.ws/forum/postlist.pl?C...&Board=computer Of course, this site is at the prime drug manufacturing web site so if there is anything which is going to ring alarm bells it will probably be this :-) (it is an encrypted link, note the s at the end of https: which gives you a degree of security WRT the data you send and receive) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
