spacemonkey Posted June 28, 2011 (edited) gvnf Edited May 21, 2016 by spacemonkey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Khala Posted June 28, 2011 I saw this on 420 hahaha. As I said there, these aren't subs. Wrong spore colour, wrong stem colour, wrong cap colouration. Read up on it, chuck them out, and good luck with your journey Peace. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naja naja Posted June 28, 2011 Wow, how could u get it so wrong. They are deff NOT subs! They are most likely Hypholoma australe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
obtuse Posted June 28, 2011 spore print was brown dont want to sound like a narny nah nah, but re- read your research material. every shroom book you will ever read will point out the importance of the spore print as a main identificating factor. your reasearch material should have said the spore print will be purple, almost black in colour. if it didnt, find better. Dont depend on photographs as your main tool of identification. I have seen quite a few books where the colour has come out a shade or two off the true colouration. also with this particular species, the staining is a fairly certain indicator, did you squeeze the stem. Cheers, Obtuse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tripsis Posted June 28, 2011 The lamellae and spore print colour are wrong for Hypholoma australe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spacemonkey Posted June 28, 2011 cheers guys, i have few more that i will post pics of in a while,this was my second trip to balingup i didn't think they were subs but they seemed really similar at 2 in the morning when its realy dark haha, might head down for another scout next week, Even if it wasn't a sucsesfull trip i still learned alot about mushrooms and balingup area i don't see it as a waste of time i had heaps of fun and mushrooms are going to be my new hobby i think, the're so fascinating to me, so anyone that wants to give me any suggestions hints or tips im all ears, i would love to grow more strains of mushrooms at home other than field and oyster so if anyone has spore prints they want to dontate to a young beginner(not just hallucinogenic)it would be much appreciated. love love. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Khala Posted June 28, 2011 grow more strains of mushrooms at home other than field and oyster so if anyone has spore prints they want to dontate to a young beginner(not just hallucinogenic)it would be much appreciated.+They'd be purely for microscopy purposes, yeah? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spacemonkey Posted June 28, 2011 (edited) oh yeah of course im obsessed with mushrooms and truffles in food truffle is one of my favorite flavors to cook with Edited May 21, 2016 by spacemonkey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naja naja Posted June 28, 2011 The lamellae and spore print colour are wrong for Hypholoma australe. Nerd Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spacemonkey Posted June 29, 2011 can i get a id on these yet? i realy would like to know if there galerina so i can avoid them next time and tell some friends that are new to shrooming Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PD. Posted June 29, 2011 Wow, how could u get it so wrong. They are deff NOT subs! They are most likely Hypholoma australe. The lamellae and spore print colour are wrong for Hypholoma australe. LMFAO, wow, how could you get it so wrong! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tripsis Posted June 29, 2011 Some more information is necessary if you want them keyed out. Fill out the following and you should be able to get an ID, at least to genus. Habitat: Where does it grow? Eg. woods, pasture, state, province, country, altitude, etc. What does it grow on? Eg. soil, dung, wood (dead, living, what kind of wood?), etc. Gills: Color, attached/not, gills/pores, etc. Stem: Length, diameter, color, texture, hollow/solid, thin/thick, etc. Cap: Diameter, color, texture, conical/spherical, convex/concave, etc. Spore print color: Very important! Bruising: Color that the mushroom bruises, if any. Other information: Scent of the mushroom, anything else you think is important, large close-up pictures showing stem, cap and gills. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naja naja Posted June 30, 2011 LMFAO, wow, how could you get it so wrong! I was using drawn illustrations as my I'd. Great book, but obviously not infallable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
occidentalis Posted June 30, 2011 can i get a id on these yet? i realy would like to know if there galerina so i can avoid them next time and tell some friends that are new to shrooming I don't think they are Galerinas, but really it's not that important - all you need to know is that they are not edible or otherwise useful. Tell your friends to avoid them. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
fermentedfrog Posted July 30, 2011 been to balinyup a few times and this is weird but they are the shrooms that i would pick theres only gold tops and blue meanies there. theres imposter mushies we like to call them that have brown/orange stem....avoid and once u see those ones its so easy to spot them out if its grey/blue stem and when u squeeze them they go a blue tinge bingo thats them and its hard to get it wrong once u see the blue grey stem, but i would wait till i get home to check the colour under some light...dunno the correct name for species, im a complete douche in that language, but just looking at the nipple looks like nice mature ones, shake them to release spores before bagging Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MindExpansion Posted July 30, 2011 ^^^ Ignore that ramble... gold tops (cubes?) and blue meanies are both copraphiles.... they don't grow in winter or in the forest... I think one of the best ways to learn to ID the right ones (and I mean, if you want to learn to ID fungus in general then you have to study the different aspects of identification like a lot of the myco-geniuses on here) but if you just want to pick up on how to spot a sub... having someone that knows what they are looking for actually show you them in their environment is far better than any ID book or web-guide. Doesn't take long to get the hang of it that way. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
El Presidente Hillbillios Posted July 30, 2011 yeah i agree with that one, an experienced person will show you the way. Subs have a feel more than a look and you cant get that from a book Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MindExpansion Posted July 30, 2011 Totally agree its the feel that sets them apart, the way they cling to the ground, their texture, its all things you will pick up if you are shown by someone who knows. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
