Is Meow Meow the new Ecstasy?

[indigo264nm]

Yeah I've actually heard of it being around lately.. From what I've heard it's definitely no decent substitute for MD.

[mu!]

yeh not a decent substitute for mdxx at all. best to try your hand at methyl one

[prier]

"md substitute" = marketing technique. forget the comparison.

I hear meow is really good fun. I also hear good things about methyl one, both very stimulating.

[J Smith]

I just saw an ad for A Current Affair for this week. They are having an expose on some "new" drug scourge, didn't name what it was on the ad but I think I heard them claim it makes users act like a cat!!? (Not exactly certain of the wording as I was only half listening...)

The factual, unbiased, balanced reporters at ACA should make it good for a laugh anyway.

[Bread Filter]

Half the aussie media is running a story on 4-MMC this weekend. Journalists have been posting on Bluelight and interviewing members about it.

The SMH story is out already:

Fears of new ecstasy on streets

March 27, 2010

A new drug has hit our shores and little is known of its dangers, writes Nick Ralston.

Doug had never heard of "meow meow" the first time he took up an offer from his housemate and swallowed two capsules of the drug on a Friday night last November.

An occasional ecstasy user, Doug, who declined to give his full name, took the new drug because it promised to be just as ''good and strong'' as the ''decent [ecstasy] pills'' at a fraction of the price.

The twentysomething professional who lives in Sydney's inner west said he barely slept until the Monday.

''My mate had had it a couple of times and he loved the stuff.

I was keen to put my hand up for it,'' Doug said. ''The feeling was very similar to strong [ecstasy] pills. I was flushed. I was excited. I was hyper.

"You get a bit thirsty and keen for a dance … then it gets to 11am and you're still awake.''

In the months since, Doug has taken meow meow once more but he said his friends' interest in and knowledge of the drug has grown tenfold.

Meow meow - a street name for mephedrone - was practically unheard of just 12 months ago, but its use is on the rise.

The name meow meow originates from m-Cat, an abbreviation of the substance's full chemical name 4-Methylmethcathinone. It is a synthetic substance mainly produced in China and based on cathinone compounds found in khat, the east African plant that is chewed for an amphetamine-like stimulant effect.

Users of the drug, a white powder which is usually swallowed in capsules or snorted, have likened its effect to the euphoria experienced on ecstasy combined with ''the more-ish qualities of cocaine''.

Its popularity stems from the British dance music scene where in the past 12 months it has progressed from a fringe substance to the drug of choice.

In Britain, mephedrone is cheap, legal and can be bought online and delivered to an address only hours later.

Online retailers of the drug avoid legal issues by marketing it as ''plant food'' and stating that it is ''not for human consumption''. Many of the websites, however, carry suggestive names like ''discofood'', accompanied by images of the rave scene.

But the legality of the drug there is under review. The British media have linked the deaths of four people, including two teenage boys, in the past month to the drug.

In Australia it is illegal, but both police and the National Drug and Alcohol Research Centre said they were aware of its presence and were monitoring its availability. Just last month, the Australian Federal Police and Customs seized 20 kilograms of the drug hidden in children's toys.

Users of the drug told the Herald that demand for mephedrone in Australia surged in November for the summer party and music festival seasons.

It was coupled with what regular ecstasy users described as an ''MDMA drought''.

NDARC's drug monitoring system said users had also noted a steady decline in the purity of ecstasy since 2006.

One user of mephedrone, who did not wish to be identified, said when reports of the drug filtered in from Britain, people were keen to try it.

''MDMA has become a lot less common and a lot harder to find,'' the user said. ''People are always trying to find things that have similar effects.''

Gideon Warhaft, who edits User's News for the NSW Users and Aids Association, said: ''It's inevitable that when drugs are made illegal you are going to have a situation where new drugs are invented.''

NDARC's Dr Lucy Burns said she had yet to see any indication of widespread use of mephedrone. But users have told the Herald that dealers regularly try to pass off the new, cheaper drug as ecstasy to sell it for a higher price. A gram of mephedrone costs about $100 here compared with $300 for a gram of MDMA.

This deception is worrying visitors to the drug information and harm minimisation website Blue Light. Sykik, a regular user of the forums, said he'd tried the drug and the big difference was the need for a higher dosage of mephedrone to achieve the same feeling as ecstasy.

The euphoric feeling, which he described as ''the magic'', does not last as long from the newcomer. He said those who believed they were taking ecstasy then may believe it fine to keep ''re-dosing''.

Little research has been done on the drug and there are concerns about the effect quantities of more than 500mg can have on the body, in particular the heart.

Australian users have reported palpations, along with nose bleeds, muscle tension in the face, paranoia and insomnia

http://www.smh.com.au/national/fears...0326-r31v.html

[psilosophical]

I just saw an ad for A Current Affair for this week. They are having an expose on some "new" drug scourge, didn't name what it was on the ad but I think I heard them claim it makes users act like a cat!!? (Not exactly certain of the wording as I was only half listening...)

The factual, unbiased, balanced reporters at ACA should make it good for a laugh anyway.

 

I read this is gona be on on monday i think.

According to another forum a lot of news and current affairs shows are going to run a story on meow shortly.

lateline is interviewing someone from bluelight. should be the best story out of the bad bunch.

[Quill]

I just saw an ad for A Current Affair for this week. They are having an expose on some "new" drug scourge, didn't name what it was on the ad but I think I heard them claim it makes users act like a cat!!? (Not exactly certain of the wording as I was only half listening...)

The factual, unbiased, balanced reporters at ACA should make it good for a laugh anyway.

 

LOL I just saw the ad you're talking about. Photo of some douche on all fours talking about how it had him purring. I'm gonna watch ACA and laugh.

[DarkSpark]

The name meow meow originates from m-Cat, an abbreviation of the substance's full chemical name 4-Methylmethcathinone. It is a synthetic substance mainly produced in China and based on cathinone compounds found in khat, the east African plant that is chewed for an amphetamine-like stimulant effect.

http://www.smh.com.au/national/fears...0326-r31v.html

 

That is going to do wonders for the legality of Khat in aus all this going around the media. Once there is a scene someone has to "make a stand". I wish there was never an ecstasy shortage that way meow would have stayed away for a bit longer... Might have to make sure i take and root some cuttings too ensure i don't have to worry about trying to source again.

Let me know what the ACA thing is like as i will be working !

[J Smith]

On ACA NOW (well after the property market hype story and the story about Olivia Newton John's daughter going off the rails anyway...)!!

Some quotes

More dangerous that X or speed as it stays in your body for months

Conrad has largely recovered except that since his one Meow Meow experience he has developed an eating disorder (he has put on 6kg)

Some dr said that they are seeing more hospitalisations due to meow meow that for either ice or other drugs.

All in all, standard bullshit from ACA.

EDIT: here is the ACA segment

http://video.au.msn.com/watch/video/meow-meow-madness/xdjnkpv

Edited March 29, 2010 by madhouses visites

[Quill]

Yep MV pretty much summed it up, typical sensationalist bullshit devoid of any facts or quality journalism, just OOOHH SCARY DRUGS, KEEP YOUR KIDS INDOORS stuff.

Incidentally I talked to a foaf from melb on the weekend who said that it was in his opinion preferable to most pills available to him. Something else he said that interested me was that it appeared to have a similar interaction between set and setting that you would expect of entheos as opposed to the feeling of wellbeing regardless of surroundings etc of mdma.

[Quill]

I read this is gona be on on monday i think.

According to another forum a lot of news and current affairs shows are going to run a story on meow shortly.

lateline is interviewing someone from bluelight. should be the best story out of the bad bunch.

 

any idea when the lateline one is on? ACA one as expected sucked, but not enough to make me laugh.

[ThunderIdeal]

 

you can't ignore it, you must open it.

Edited April 4, 2010 by ThunderIdeal