ID Please

[Stinkmeat]

Hey,

I just wanted an ID on these 3 cuttings. I have an idea of what they are, just wanted a second opinion to make sure. There seems to be a fair amount of variation, even within each cutting.

This is the first one

The second

And the final one

Thanks

Stink

[Ace]

T. bridgesii - all three, except the second one has been de-spined. Just an educated guess on the second one (which I'm almost positive on), but 100% on the 1st and 3rd. If the second one isnt a despined bridge, it could be a spineless form (which would be quite a nice clone) or possibly a very bridgesii-like T. scopulicola.

Beautiful plants Stink

[Teotzlcoatl]

Damn you got it first!

...doesn't look despinned... hmm... interesting clone!

[Stinkmeat]

Ace, that's pretty much what my thoughts were

They are all cuttings from the same plant. Its an "Eileen" apparently.

The first and third do look a lot like a standard Echinopsis/Trichocereus Bridgesii. But the second one is an interesting variant. It's definitely not despined. That's the main trunk growth from this year. It was the only section to lose it's spines. Hopefully it continues to grow that way. ;) Very similar looking to a Scopulicola that I have.

Is that sort of variation common in "Eileen"?

Thanks

Stink

[AndyAmine.]

Yeah its pretty common with Eileen, mine do it a lot depending on how much sun and water they get.

I thought it was Eileen but because you said you didnt know what it was I assumed it mustn have been.

Nice cacti

[apothecary]

Do you mind if I ask where you sourced them?

[Stinkmeat]

Do you mind if I ask where you sourced them?

It was on swap and sell about a year ago, but I can't actually remember who it was from.

I'll try to find out and PM you.

Stink

[mutant]

Do you have any links on the qualities of this Eileen strain?

Can T.bridgesii [by their description] have the V shape that exists in peruvianoid trichs? ~ sorry if I sound stupid, it's my first cacti growing year

[Stinkmeat]

Do you have any links on the qualities of this Eileen strain?

Can T.bridgesii [by their description] have the V shape that exists in peruvianoid trichs? ~ sorry if I sound stupid, it's my first cacti growing year

The Eileen that I have does possess the V shape that you are talking about (that's assuming you mean the V just above each areole?). Standard Bridgesii do seem to have it as well, not quite as pronounced though. It does not seem as prominent as T. Peruvianus

As for a link on the qualities of "Eileen." I don't know of any and couldn't find any with a quick search. I'm sure there has been old discussions on here about Eileen so if you do a search you may find something.

A few of the main characteristics that I have noticed are -

- She grows much bulkier and fatter than a normal T. Bridge.

- She has hybrid vigor, which means that she is a bit tougher than most. She also produces more biomass/flesh per growing season

- She seems to have a lot of variation in her visual appearance, as you can tell in my photos.

There are no stupid questions mutant ;) I've only been growing for a year, so I'm still learning.

If anyone else has any points to add about the characteristics, or if anything I said was wrong (quite likely), extra info would be appreciated.

Stink

Edited September 21, 2008 by Stinkmeat

[mutant]

Hmmm while I thought this peruvianus characteristic V shape was referring to the area between two ribs, and especially in new growth or from old growth towards new growth, in the mean time I noticed the V above each areoles and said to myself: "hey, is THIS the V thing I read about?" - and now that I think of it [when upstairs to check my cacti as well] I noticed the growth V shape exists also in my predominant-like pedro....

My own hasn't got very long spines, and I cut it into 3 pieces to propagate. I will put close photos some time soon