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This seems far too long - 45 min to an hour should be plenty depending on the pressure cooker setting. The cakes are prolly drying out.

yeah hahaha saw them for the first time at 2AM on Rage last Sunday morning, while I was with St Peter! The song was 'I remember once when you used to love me'. Fucking intense stuff. Raw emotion, true art.

My final T.Pachanoi bloom for this summer will happen in the next 1-2 weeks. I'm keen to swap pollen - any of the species mentioned here sound good. PM if interested. Cheers

Yea there are a few talks where he mentions Sally, but rarely his experiences with it. One in particular where he announces the discovery of it, as sampled by 1200 Micrograms in the song 'Salvia Divinorum': This is a news flash folks, we interrupt this program to bring you this special announcement. A new psychoactive substance has been discovered. A very powerful psychoactive substance. The most powerful since the discovery of LSD. A substance so powerful that 300 micro grams is the dose. That means 1 gram will dose 7000 people. Salvia - s.a.l.v.i.a and then Divinorum - d.i.v.i.n.o.r.u.m. - the diviner's mint. Sorry I can't point you towards which ones in particular - if I come across them anytime soon I'll post the names here.

I wonder how many deaths MDMA would be responsible for if it were legal - when the community at large could take as much as they want, as often as they want, as is now the case with alcahol and tobacco. We just don't know how much damage MDMA could do in the hands of so many irresponsible users.

Did anoyone go? How was it????

Mu, how long did these effects last? Were any other effects detected that could be attributed the datura? A FOAF has tried teas made from various parts of the plant (flowers, leaves stems) and has experienced the famous true halucinations (as well as other visual effects such as rough edges/patterns to flat surfaces and black dots or ants crawling along surface edges). They are far and away the most convincing out of body experiences he's had, and he also says the bodyload/weakening which kicks in when the experience begins as being amongst the most pleasant he's ever felt from a plant, even being fully aware the effects are caused by the body's repsonse to being poisoned. He says the main problem is that he was often not really 'there' to observe the experience or bring any of it back, classic Delerium. Fortunately his sober sitter was able to draw his attention to his obscure behaviour and speech, and remind him when he was not experiencing consensus reality. By the end of his experiences he was getting very frustrated with the constant discoveries that what he was experiencing and believing were real actually weren't, and then having to try and get his bearings all over again only to have them surely vanish in front of his eyes minutes later. He says this lasted about 5 hours on and off, yet he couldn't distinguish between on and off. Sort of like the movie Existenz, where once you enter the game you have no way of knowing whether you're in or out of it. Anyhoo, he has not tried smoking the plant as you mention here, except in Chang mixes where he says it seems to add a dreamy edge to the experience - seems to be a dosage thing. I'm interested in any other experiences ppl here may have had with smoking the tropanes.

jaundice: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaundice Poor silly bugger, wonder if he made it. Such a poisoning can progress well after the 2 days he was in hospital.

Woah, that is some ugly, ugly shit. How can he say that gay ministers are What an ignorant dumb fuck, typical of the ever-growing religious right in the western world, where god seems to have become a hate-filled, unforgiving human perversion of a nice story. Their god is clearly not the same omnipotent all-encompassing universe that I have experienced. Then he goes on to make links between disease in the gay community and scripture, implying there is a 'moral' explanation for it! This is very, very evil. And I'm not even gay, I do not want this kind of thinking anywhere near government. We used to laugh about this kind of attitutde amongst the hicks of the deep south of America, now it is in Australian politics. Funniest of all: I was a little unsure of how to vote this year. I'm not any more.

Nice one PD. I'm very surprised you had to go to those lengths. Love the smiley cannabis leaf on the last slide. WTF?? I thought it was common knowledge that trace elements can be found throughout the body afterward. Even in hair and fingernails. There was once talk of drug testing workers at my last employer using analysis of hair samples. Apparently such analysis can reveal what, when and how much was floating around the body at the time. People, the message is clear and simple to me: DON'T DRIVE

Nice artwork phloom. I like the top painting a lot. It's abstract yet has mechanistic form. Reminds me of a breakdancing Transformer. Or a Thorny Devil lizard. didn't realise we had an asexual being in our midst...

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rofl perhaps it's more like: oo--> mod, pls delete this thread. Thanks.

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I'll be heading down with a small crew and would be happy to meet other plant ppl there. I've been going to EC for the last few years and while it's very true that it's nothing like the smaller and less commercial doofs, it's still possible to have a great time there. This year it seems they are trying to make it more doof-like - no hard dance floor should mean no munted candy ravers causing ugly scenes, less of the big name commercial acts, limited tickets etc. Some good names on the line up this year too: electric universe, space tribe, sesto sento, lish, SUN project, x_noize etc.

Awesome! The spore print would have made an interesting piece of art!

yea, agreed. I loved your story about reading the fine print on your glasses and then remembering that you shouldn't be able to do that, and instantly not being able to. Would have been a shocking couple of minutes!

Trollinator, I don't think the difference is big at all. I would suggest that the increase in visual acuity phenomena IS temporary correction of a myopic/hyperopic 'defect'. The fact that it affects some people to a greater degree and for longer periods afterwards would be a product of personal brain chemistry and other factors. At the very least I would think the two are related. Or are you suggesting they are different phenomena altogether? Interesting.....

LOL Hahahaha! I'd be shocked too if my my car stalled so close to home!

Thanks very much for posting these. I tried one of the BWG focusing programs last night and it seemed to have some kind of effect - not mind blowing visuals or anything like that but a kind of awakened alertness, similar to meditation or the clear mental state achieved through regular exercise (which I'm not getting at the moment - weather to shitty to ride to work). I played it at work at around 5pm and within half an hour I had a sharp pain in the front of my head, as if I were about to get a full-blown headache. This subsided in a few mins and I then felt more switched on than normal, for the rest of the night. I felt refreshed and happy as a consequence - I was able to go home and focus on my computer music progs and other stuff till midnight more easily than usual. I'll be giving them further tests over the next week or so, and will report back here afterwards.

I believe this is a pretty well known phenomena. Terrence McKenna often rapped about the 'increase in visual acuity' for even small doses of psilocybin in the human diet. He even used this as a major part of his thesis that psychedelics accelerated human evolution (check out Food of the Gods), where the hunter-gatherers who included psilo in their diets had a distinct hunting advantage over those that didn't. He also mentions medical research which supports the theory. Interestingly, the phenomena is detectable at doses far below the psychedelic threshold, and hence psilo may be used in such a medicinal manner deliberately.

I ended up arriving at dusk on the Saturday - I didn't expect the journey to take over 5 hours - but it was well worth it. Even the car journey had me buzzing - I caught the ferry across from Portsea to Queenscliff which was cool. Driving alone through the forest with the tunes pumping as the light faded was a nice experience too. Great to meet you Ed, I was happy enough just shooting the breeze with you, save for the fun when Conan and co rocked up. The walk amongst the red gums was awesome!! All up I had a great weekend and am keen to get along to any others that may eventuate. Cheers roll on Dennis McKenna!!

Wow, I'm really excited to read all of this as it re-iterates my own thoughts of the last year or so. I'm discovering that life is transcendence. In the past I have said never to a lot of the things that define me today. Eg: drugs, electronic music, marriage, owning a home, kids, working life, social/political views, religion and so on. Yet these things have twisted around in ways that I could never have anticipated. The great thing is, as I move on from one thing to the next, I don't lose what I was previously, but just gain the new experiences the that changes bring. I can appreciate and empathise a wider mix of other's opinions because of this. I have learned to never say never again and am also reaching the point where I have NO POINT OF VIEW on anything. I observe ppl around me holding on to beliefs so strongly, yet I see how that view can change so easily based on experience. These beliefs are usually inherited or regurgitated form elsewhere. Psychedelics really beat down any degree of certainty you may have about the universe to the point you realise that it's foolish to claim that you know something for sure. All we have to go on is what we have mentally created for ourselves, which may or may not be true or even relevant tomorrow! All is fluid. To quote Terrence: 'Everything changes. Nothing lasts, but nothing is lost.' The sad thing is that as I get older I find I'm having less and less to say, which makes me somewhat of a mute bore.

I'm still keen, and am still planning to drive from Chelsea on the Sat morning if anyone wants a lift.... Also to those that are coming along, I was thinking of bringing along my psychedelic book collection, if anyone is interested in swaps or borrows. I have: - the whole McKenna collection - a cpl of Leary's (High priest, Your brain is God) - Stamets (Psilocybin Mushrooms of the World) - a few drug reference books (Buzzed, Food of the Gods, etc) - Pinchbeck (Breaking open the head -but just given away) - John C Lilly (centre of the cyclone) - Hoffman (Insight Outlook) - Ginsberg, Burroughs (The Yage letters) - Shroom -The mystic Mandrake -Trips and many others. Anyone interested???