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They say 860 kg of MDMA was found, that is crap .With the average dose of 120mg of MDMA per pill (that is if they are da goods )and a whole heap of binders ,fillers & waxes to hold the pills together. The law says that it all will be classed as MDMA if that is what it is sold as.Do this little test , weigh out 120mg of anything of a fine texture crystal then look at the size of the pill , that's the difference the binders and fillers make.Now if it was pure crystal then that would be a more acurate mesurement.

Gee i will have to admit it is good to know that there are some decent Americans still out there, but i think "Men in Black " had it right all along - They are aliens............. Refuse Resist

The only reality TV i watch is the Simpsons , at least thats my reality !

In a past life 2b spent years working on orchards & vinyards , refractometers were used to asses the sugar content of fruit to work out the optimun harvest time .The device is a cylindrical optical type jigga , with a mirror type thing at one end and an eye peice at the other. You put juice from the fruit onto the mirror , held it up the light and looked through the eye peice and as the light 'refracted' through the juice sugar conent was able to be determend. One company who we grew grapes on contract for, would send there guys out every day around harvest to test sugar content and when they hit the desired level we were told to harvest NOW ! Same goes for apples , as they are stored in a controlled environment for most of the year it is critical to get them in at the right time , as sugars convert to starches and the fruit loses its appeal.

Shroomster, just a quick 32 page Spanish legal doc to read over coffe before i get started this morning !!! I have made a quick read of it and i seems to go on more about the theraputic/natural medicene control regulations than anything else; eg: if want to do this you have to do it this way....alot of legal mumbo jumbo about labeling and quality control.The list you spoke about goes on about dosage/effect/application more relavent to pharmacutical types IMO. But wait ! it then has another list headed: 'Prohibited public use for reason of toxicity' Goes on to list the old favorites : Cannabis ,Catha , Artimisa ? (Hemingway would turn in his grave ! :D )Etc... So to awnser your question is possesion illegal or just sale illegal , you would have to be a bit more specific. The paper has seperate lists for both . It then goes on about chemical,pharmacutical and biological documentation (yawn...) possibly more about consumer labeling , Manufacture process regulations and standards , Intermediate product control and Finished product control . The paper also makes some mention of EU regulations and if you think about it they won't be that far away from any other Eu member as far as this goes (IMO)Anyway , must get back to work. As this is a legal doc get your own opinion if it may mean you may be caught out (leagly that is ) Spanish law is not like Australian law (Why do you think Skase was there ? )It's time consuming and full of wierd red tape , but ultimately justice does pervail and is fair , Adios amigos, 2b

I saw the final episode and was left gobsmacked , but hey were all talking about it !!! Knowing Safron it could all be a stunt ? But to contradict my own thoughts, my sister claims he is doing a show on 'tripple j' with priest ? Damm , he could become a high profile poster boy for the born agains !! It was kinda wierd though to see a Jew accept the New Testiment. If it is true , I for one , are dissapointed that after all the exposure to the beautiful , exotic religons of the world he ends up settling for religons Hawiian Pizza. :confused:

If you can point me to the post i will have a go, would be half interested myself. Having said that speaking Spanish and understanding Spanish legal documents are two worlds apart, trust me have been down this road before.You could also just try the easy way and translate it using any of the translator programs (Bablefish, Google,...)it won't be perfect but you will get the general idea. :confused:

Good read about Ergot fungi. The evolutionary stratergy of claviceps.

"Don't mention the war !!!" -Basil Faulty :mad:

it appears from what i have been able to read that chloroform could be used instead of any solvents to exract salvinorins in a simple , fast and efficient method that is descirbed in the following PDF : Annals of botany , localization of Salvinorin A and related compounds...02/04

Ed don't doubt your assumption about Zippo fluid not being Naptha , you obviously have graeter knowledge of this sort of thing than me as i am just a hack ! But have a look at the tin the zippo fluid comes in , it has Naptha written on the side as its' contents ? I have found the venti brand burns cleanest as some brands burn cleaner than others.Shellite is much the same stuff, it's the stuff you run those light weight bush walking stoves on and (the american have a similar product that they call Colemans stove fluid )As for the mouth wash , could it have something to do with defatting the inside of the mouth ?

Naptha in Oz can be bought as "Zippo" lighter fluid or shelite as you state, as far as extraction with hexane, i would imagine that a non polar solvent is a non polar solvent and would not really differ in extraction technique(I've heard of people extracting into unleaded petrol with succss !!) Pure salvinorin could possibly be administered via a blotter , alah LSD .See copied info below, the only problem i could see would be how soluable it would be in alcohol ? This is an extract from a post on the hive from ChemMang.The reason i have included it was i remeber a similar discussion about how to administer Fentanyl wich seems to have similar potencey issues when it comes to using.(And it's a good read on how they actually get the LSD onto the blotter !) TYPES OF CRYSTAL Needlepoint-very pure(95%) white powerdery crystal.was available in small amount`s. The best of the best :grin: White Fluff-Very pure(95%) white light flakes of crystal. Still around and the most sought after. very pure Silver-Good and clean(85-90%)-light greyish crystal. Was an unbelievable amount of this around in the late eighty`s and early nineties. Very good stuff. My first thumbprint was this kind. If you ate acid in the 80-90`s you probably sampled some silver. Amber-Decent(70%?) This crystal varied from a light amber color to an almost dark brown color.Was always available.One batch called quadricept amber was the color of light honey and was very good.Lot`s a people worked with this crystal but i always would use silver instead since it was better and the same price. Lavender-(60-70%?) light purple to almost black colored crystal. Like amber it varied batch to batch. TJ(tornado juice) - purity unknown. I seen this shit in about four different colors and it always scared me. no experiance with it. Champagne-(50-60%) black crystal, nasty stuff IMHO. I worked with it once and swore to never touch it again. OK so you got some crystal and need to get it on blotter. It`s a pretty amazing feeling holding a jar in your hands that has 10 grams of crystal in it. That`s 100,000 doses in the palm of your hand. For dealing with laying we`ll say we got 1 gram. Acid is always layed 1 gram=10 tenpacks. A tenpack is tensheets. 1gram=10,000doses. If your laying needlpoint your doses will be 95mcg, because your crystal is 95% pure. If your laying amber your shit will be 70mcg, because it`s 70% pure. got it Now you get a glass pyrex pan to dip your tenpacks in. Your crystal is dissovled into 110ml. of everclear per gram.The purer crystals dissolve instantly with a little stirring. The not so pure take a little shaking. Champange is damn near impossible to get to dissolve evenly. Paper-for white blotter standard watercolor paper#14 or equivalent is used. It`s critical you get the right paper. If you don`t it won`t absorb right and you`ll fuck it all up. Print`s are made up ahead of time and perferated OK so you got your crystal dissolved and your paper cut and ready. there are 2 schools when it comes to putting it on the paper. First dump the solution in the pan and dip each tenpack into it then lift it up and let any excess solution run off into the pan. Second method is to put the tenpack into the pan and squirt the solution on it with a baby syringe(the ones they give little kids medicine with). i Have done both and prefer dipping them just because its quicker Then the tenpacks are layed out to dry which doesn`t take long since alcohol evaporates quickly. If you did it right there will be very little residue left in the bottom of the pan.This redidue is extremly potent and is eather soaked up with a piece of paper(called mop up) or made into potent liquid(called wash). Whatever you choose this is saved for your personal use While your doing all this you get very,very high. As soon as you open the jar of crystal it intoxicates the air. Most people were rubber gloves when doing this some don`t. Just don`t have any plans afterwards. There might be slightly different methods used when laying, but this is how the dead family does it. :grin: After the tenpacks are dryed there distibuted and eaten up. Since the end of the Grateful Dead the massive distribution network that used to get rid of so much acid has been broken up badly. Never fear Acid is still out there END QUOTE

Great effort , the Naptha thing has me beat ? It's so American, why does every one insist on it as there solvent of choice. Personally i prefer Xylene. Do you bother drying your acetone ? Not having any experience with AR acetone always working with the OTC stuff that holds a fair amount of water , i would always recomend drying.Is it possible to A/B extract the Salvinorin ?In that way you could deal with the tanins & chlorphyll all at the same time ?It's a question that has probably been asked and awnsered before (I now know you can't A/B extract THC !!although Butane but the dumbest question is the one you never ask as they say ..

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