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#1 Flux

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Posted 05 July 2015 - 02:46 PM

Hi Folks

Could someone help with a definitive identification for this species.

Found in the heart of the Nambucca valley 5 km from the coast in National park (mostly re-growth after fire a about a decade ago).

Sample taken 2 days ago

Some have tentatively identified this as Obtusifolia...(which would be nice to know as there is a lot of it growing  :wink: )

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Posted 05 July 2015 - 03:11 PM

It's not obtusifolia, looks like a longifolia to me.

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Posted 05 July 2015 - 03:52 PM

thanks..a few more photos I found: 

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Posted 05 July 2015 - 04:07 PM

They look like maidenii seed pods...

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Posted 05 July 2015 - 07:47 PM

Acacia obtusifolia (below)

 

Acacia_obtusifolia_1.jpg

 

Acacia longifolia (below)

 

Acacia-longifolia-branch.jpg

 

i'm glad you can tell the difference Glaukus.

they look almost the same to me, very hard to tell apart 

 

I did a bit of research on wikipedia (where i got the pics from) which i'm sure you already checked out Flux, and apparently they are both closely related. here is some good info from the site that may help identify both plants.

 

Acacia obtusifolia can be distinguished by it having phyllode margins which are resinous, it usually blooms later in the year and it has paler flowers than Acacia longifolia

 

I'm unfortunately no expert, and wish i could do more than post some info of the net.

But i hope this helps anybody reading & U 2 Flux.


Edited by baghdatis, 05 July 2015 - 07:54 PM.

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Posted 05 July 2015 - 08:03 PM

^ The reinous margins aren't always apparent on obtusifolia, particularly in winter. They do appear resinous (mine do anyway) during periods of rapid growth.

 

& obtusifolia normally flowers around December where I am. I've never seen one flower in your zone though, so that might be a key to help with a positive ID.


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Posted 05 July 2015 - 08:28 PM

How large is the plant/tree?

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Posted 08 July 2015 - 05:40 PM

Thanks Baghdatis, I’d looked at the Wiki sites several times, but it really helps to have the two side by side like that.

 

Having collected these photos today (from other locations), I have noticed there is no resinous margin and the seed pods posted above are definitely from these trees. Included is a photo of the bark if this helps. I also tried a burn test but no distinct tryptamine smell.

 

These trees vary from around .5 metres tall to at least 2 metres- some 3

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Posted 08 July 2015 - 05:42 PM

Also another specimens which eludes me

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Posted 09 July 2015 - 02:56 AM

Glaukus & Sally are gonna be the ones who will be able to help you out with this. 

Glaukus made the call with longifolia in you first post. (which looks to me to be correct)

And Sally actually grows obtusifolia. (& could even edit a wikipedia post, and i quote. "The reinous margins aren't always apparent on obtusifolia, particularly in winter. They do appear resinous (mine do anyway) during periods of rapid growth")

 

Seems to me they have more knowledge on this than you can poke a stick at :worship: . 

 

Your new pics of plants, you say vary from around .5 metres tall to at least 2 metres- some 3

Look to me to be the same species as the ones in your first post. (Acacia Longifolia)

Although your third pic (the one next to the seed pods) still has me guessing.

The leaves look much more narrow, and flowers much paler than the rest. - Anyone able to help out?

 

I went through this list from wikiepdiea https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Acacia_species 

The closest thing i could find matching the pics of your illusive friend was.

 

Acacia suaveolens

Acacia_suaveolens.jpg

 

Acacia-suaveolens.jpg

But once again unfortunately I'm no expert, just what I'm getting of the net.

I can't say for sure what it is.

Anyone able to help me/us on this one?


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Posted 09 July 2015 - 06:48 AM

Thanks Baghdatis, Id looked at the Wiki sites several times, but it really helps to have the two side by side like that.
 
Having collected these photos today (from other locations), I have noticed there is no resinous margin and the seed pods posted above are definitely from these trees. Included is a photo of the bark if this helps. I also tried a burn test but no distinct tryptamine smell.
 
These trees vary from around .5 metres tall to at least 2 metres- some 3


Definatly longifolia

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Posted 09 July 2015 - 11:01 AM

Yep definitely longifolia & the second one most probs suaveolens as someone said..

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Posted 09 July 2015 - 11:30 AM

Thanks everyone -much appreciated :)



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Posted 25 July 2015 - 03:56 PM

Hi folks,

Some new finds today which I suspect to be Obtuse & Floribunda - any thoughts ?Attached File  11798449_10204220893235319_1114624225_n (2) Obtuse.jpg   152.33KB   0 downloadsAttached File  11798034_10204220894355347_235993977_n (2) FLoribunda.jpg   125.13KB   0 downloads

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Posted 25 July 2015 - 10:18 PM

I can't see enough detail in the second pic to make a guess.

 

The first is definitely not obtusifolia.


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Posted 25 July 2015 - 10:31 PM

Not sure about the first, but I agree that it's not obtusifolia - could be floribunda though.

 

The second could be fimbriata.


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