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#1 Scarecrow

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Posted 27 February 2015 - 04:30 PM

http://www.smh.com.a...227-13qd4m.html

 

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Posted 27 February 2015 - 05:01 PM

So, what VPN service are people using? Definitely something with endpoints in countries with decent privacy laws..

 

I'm planning on setting up my network properly this weekend with a few VLANs and hope to set up a decent router/firewall and encrypt ALL my traffic via VPN.


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Posted 27 February 2015 - 09:00 PM

let 'em come....


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Posted 27 February 2015 - 09:24 PM

Good business opportunity for anyone with the skills.  Setting up the masses on VPNs.



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Posted 27 February 2015 - 11:21 PM

People shouldn't be forced to use a VPN to hide from their own government. I'm not surprised that Labor supports this, but it is dissapointing and stupid. Anyone that poses a threat to National Security or kids will easily avoid scrutiny. Meanwhile, the number of organizations that have access to the data of millions of Australians will inevitably expand.

And all that's before you even consider what a future government might choose to do differently with the information

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Posted 27 February 2015 - 11:35 PM

This whole metadata policy is ridiculous. The same kind of thing has been done in European countries (Germany and others) with insignificant difference to terror related crime. 



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Posted 28 February 2015 - 06:06 AM

http://www.shaman-au...110#entry492201

 

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Posted 28 February 2015 - 06:22 AM

don't forget qld (and nsw?) have anti association laws, metadata can show you were in the vicinity of a person of interest, and if there is a pattern develop then you can become a person of interest, even if you've done nothing wrong (and thus, apparently, have "nothing to hide")

 

tas and vic now has anti protest laws, they can see exactly who was at a protest and thus charge everyone, crushing dissent and making meaningful opposition impossible,

 

you say you have "nothing to hide"? i ask why you are willing to give the state so much unfettered power with little to no oversight?


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Posted 28 February 2015 - 06:28 AM

http://www.abc.net.a...arrants/5751402

 

read this, they will now have 2 years of records


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Posted 28 February 2015 - 06:33 AM

Citizenfour is also worth watching if you haven't seen it alrady.



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Posted 28 February 2015 - 11:19 AM

http://www.abc.net.a...-oppose/6269504

 

labor's too limp-dicked to oppose anything these days - not even a government that's imploding on itself


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Posted 28 February 2015 - 11:37 AM

they're the ones that brought  it up under nicolo roxon, you wouldn't expect them to oppose their own policy  :wink:


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Posted 28 February 2015 - 01:51 PM

i imagine meta data would be useful in prosecuting ag-gag cases, i.e. when an anonymous source gives film footage to four corners exposing animal torture, just check who was at the location described - there you've got yourself a prosecution

 

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Posted 28 February 2015 - 02:19 PM

I'm also concerned about how this lines up with the draft anti-piracy code..

 

Also, where the hell are the data centres going to be located to store all this? Offshore?


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Posted 28 February 2015 - 03:51 PM

I'm also concerned about how this lines up with the draft anti-piracy code..

 

Also, where the hell are the data centres going to be located to store all this? Offshore?

 

Contract will go to the cheapest bidder..



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Posted 28 February 2015 - 09:59 PM

I suppose they may as well just store directly in the NSA's data centres..