Yeti101 Posted May 26, 2014 (Not sure where to post this - mods can move this if they feel like it ) Interesting article the neuroscience of about consciousness and a possible mechanism of action for Salvia divinorum, all from a researcher from the Uni of Western Sydney. https://theconversation.com/is-the-key-to-consciousness-in-the-claustrum-25390 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wert Posted May 26, 2014 why do they keep thinking all this stuffs going on IN the mind? till someone performs an autopsy and shows me a mind... i wont be crediting any measurments of it! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dreamwalker. Posted May 26, 2014 (edited) MRI's show various 'mind' activities and where in the brain its occurring at any given time...... of course that's in this dimension. Edited May 26, 2014 by Dreamwalker 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
∂an Posted May 26, 2014 Demonstrating links between neural activity in various areas of the brain and thought processes doesn't necessarily mean that the brain is the generator of consciousness. The dial on a radio changes position, the station changes, does that mean the Rolling Stones are inside the dial? 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tarenna Posted May 26, 2014 Thanks for posting the link- some interesting findings and suggestions therein Isn't The Conversation a national treasure? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anodyne Posted May 26, 2014 (edited) Demonstrating links between neural activity in various areas of the brain and thought processes doesn't necessarily mean that the brain is the generator of consciousness. The dial on a radio changes position, the station changes, does that mean the Rolling Stones are inside the dial? Of course not - they're in our heads, with the rest of our reality. Wherever our minds and souls and realities ultimately reside, they are experienced in our brains, which is what this article is about. I'd always wondered what the hell kappa receptors were for. Edited May 26, 2014 by Anodyne 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seldom Posted May 26, 2014 (edited) ^ ^ ^ ^ neuroscience is a young discipline .. 70-100 billion neurons, each connected to an average of 10 000 other neurons .. FMRI has only been used as a tool for looking at brains since 1993, with 21 years of deveolpment their resolution is about as good as photography was in the 1820's .. it's only the beginning .. also of coarse it doesn't solve 'the hard problem' of the neural correlates of consciousness .. but this is really interesting, cheers for posting . another really interesting field in brain science came across in one of the latest national geographics is the idea of connectomes . but i wouldn't expect answers to questions like this in our lifetime Edited May 26, 2014 by Seldom 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
∂an Posted May 26, 2014 Wherever our minds and souls and realities ultimately reside, they are experienced in our brains, which is what this article is about. I agree, however I think the more interesting question is where this ultimate residence of consciousness is. Stiefel seems to have really been smitten by Crick et al and the claustrum as the "conductor" of the "dynamic field" of consciousness (see http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3935397/). The words conductor and field seem to indicate a non-local model of consciousness. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wert Posted May 26, 2014 (edited) thats what im getting at dan. all the knollege of the anatomy of the brain and the examples of its activitys dont even slightly indicate the exact location or residence of the conciousness. probably my fault but when i think conciousness i think mind. "i think brain and all its bits n bobs is physical. thinking sentient thoughts ie conciousness is mind." if that makes my first post make more sence. even though none of my posts make sence because i have none. Edited May 26, 2014 by wert 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites