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Hey all, i've been asked a few questions by friends, family and acquaintances previously and have never been able to complete straight answers. The first one is in relation to drug detection or sniffer dogs and what actual substances they can detect. Now this seems to be quite variable from methamphetamine, to GHB, to PCP and even LSD, with the obvious one being cannabis. Now this thread is not about getting a list of drugs to find loop-holes, nor is it about ways to hide one's stash from these super-noses, but it would be great if some of the members here would be able to share their experiences from friends of friends or information they are aware of in relation to sniffer dogs and their rare finds [specifically the substance detected, (or) the substance undetected, location or circumstance (nightclub/train/festival), and outcome or reflection on scenario]. (Research suggests 73% of people identified by the dogs are not carrying drugs and most drugs detected are small amounts of cannabis FROM HERE) Any and all stories would be incredibly appreciated and should be really interesting. In my experience, whilst walking to a festival, there were probably around 200-300 police outside the event and i noticed around 20 sniffer dogs on the way in. The police were obviouly on the prowl and i witnessed many people being singled out simply because of the wey they dressed or were presenting themselves. I noticed one guy getting pulled aside and since i was alone at the time, i leaned up against a fence with a cigarette to onlook. This guy was 'detected' by a dog and the officer pulling him aside grabbed a cigarette packet out of the man's pocket, pulling him toward a tent. The guy emerged 30mins later when my friends finally showed up looking quite shaken and pale and sat down near where i was standing. Feeling bad for him, i went over and offered him a cigarette which he happily accepted and we got talking. Turns out that the dog had sat infront of him as he was walking and as neither the police officer or the dog was looking at him, he tried to side step it, which the cop noticed and immediately grabbed him (The poor thing was probably just tired being out in the middle of the day). When he was taken away this guy was given an ultimatum - Leave the premises with the police to be searched and interrogated which would take the "rest of the day" or comply to a full search in the tent and if clean, return to the festival. Being innocent and wanting to attend the festival he complied. All his belongings were taken appart including his cigarettes, phone, asthma inhaler, wallet and lighter. Once taken apart, the items were placed in a tray for him to recover, he was then made to remove all clothes minus underwear, was patted down and made to shake his boxers. The guy was pretty distressed and finally was subjected to a drug test before allowing him to continue to the festival. This brings me back to my next inquiry in relation to the roadside drug tests. Just wondering if there is anyone out there that has experienced one, whether or not they tested +ve or not and some stories of friends of friends that have tested positive, even false positives. Have not heard of anyone that has gone through one at all really, apparently they are quite expensive ($75 a test) and there are stats that claim there are a high number of positives (cant remember citations). Finally, and this is a long shot. Anyone out there know of an ACTUAL experience where Dexamphetamine and other Amph derivatives (duramine, pseudo, etc) have been detected by a roadside/random drug test? There are a lot of opinions and assumptions out there that dont give much evidence. So i thought an experience would be best or even info if someone can link me to something i have not already scouted. Thanks heaps all and hope to hear some interesting stories.

Sorry, neither look like acacia whatsoever I'm thinking the yellow one is.... a cassia, possibly cassia fistula. and the white looks like a banksia... you'll get the hang of it soon enough

Frank: From what i have been able to decipher from forgotten sources, https://www.criminology.fsu.edu/journal/hold.html (saliva testing research), http://aunz.siemens.com.au/Healthcare-Detection_DX-Cozart-Drug-Detection-System (the drug testing device), http://www.transport.sa.gov.au/pdfs/legislation/faq_drug_driving.pdf (FAQs) and the one i attached in Post #5, basically the roadside drug tests will specifically pick up the substances THC and Methamphetamines. So MDMA, being a methamphetamine, is picked up, while pseudo, amphetamine and methylphenidate are not. The FAQs link (and in scientific terminology, the research link) above actually answers another commonly asked RDT question: How long after consumed does the drug remain detectable? It is actually a surprising time frame... Tipz: I ran out of time searching for references but i can tell you that chances are, the possession at least would be prohibited. This would be because ... - of the possibility of changing the chemical makeup of the drug when it is extracted (due to impure tech/equipment or unstable drug/additives) - the ph balancers in the pill would have been removed, so it would no longer be an approved medication for ORAL administration (which would directly contradict the prescription). Plus, as a prescription directs the dosage of medication in quantity of units (tablets/capsules), and methods of measurement for milligrams are rarely accurate, one would have a hard time justifying the risk/benefits of extraction to law enforcement. - the extracted drug is no longer visually identifiable as a prescription substance and would arouse major suspicion of intent to sell or misuse a schedule 8 drug (which would not be difficult to prove in court). - as a frequently criticised, heavily guarded schedule 8 drug, there are likely to be specific laws relating to it's preparation and manufacture. Let alone laws for all medications regarding drug alteration, reduction and compounding. If you can find any info or law relating, i would love to read it

I appreciate all the responses so far everyone, These topics are extremely interesting and personal accounts always make for interesting point of views. i just found this in the Australian Guidelines on Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder (ADHD) June 2009: 184. People with ADHD should be strongly advised to take their stimulant medication if they are driving. Treatment with MPH improves driving performance for people with ADHD. The use of extended-release stimulants is preferable if the person drives at night. Interesting... 186. The use of a manual transmission over an automatic transmission should be considered for individuals with ADHD. and finally: 14.4 Legal issues regarding driving and medications In most States and Territories in Australia, roadside drug testing has been, or soon will be, introduced. These roadside screening tests are limited to detecting three substances in saliva: tetrahydrocannabinol (TCH), methamphetamine (speed) and MDMA (ecstasy). The potential problem of identifying psychoactive substances that have been prescribed for therapeutic use (including stimulants) has been recognised, and testing will not detect the presence of prescription medications for ADHD. Addit: http://www.nhmrc.gov.au/_files_nhmrc/publications/attachments/ch54_draft_guidelines.pdf

Have been growing heaps of bosseranum, cooperi, lehmannii and some minimum for a while. Im waiting for them all to go insane for a while before i offer them out for research. Beautiful little plants, each freaking cool!

Heya everyone! I have been searching around a bit and have seen just how pricey (and rare) water lilys and lotus seeds and plants are! I have a rather large - 80mx15m lake in my front yard that is inhabited by billions of tiny deadskineating-fish, eels, water fowels and ducks, herrons and egrits and turtles and frogs! So fauna-wise, i am very fortunate! However, the only flora we have in the actual lake are Nymphoides indica Water Snowflake and some crazy weed! now i love the Lily we have at the moment but i am coveting the ones on the rest of the previously linked web page and others like the lotus in the brisbane city botanic garden. Native species would be most prefered but we are able to control international sp as it runs off into closed runoff, and there can be a loooooooooot of run off during summer :-) For trade i have heaps of syrRue seeds, delosperma bosseranum/cooperi/lemannhii cuttings, acacia seedlings and mucuna pruriens v utilis seeds. Depending on what you have on offer. Thanks heaps

beat me to it

Awesome! thanks bit! brilliant camera work

For all of your information: Requirements of importation: - Pretty much what is mentioned above http://www.health.gov.au/internet/main/publishing.nsf/content/importation-of-kava Therapeutic Guidelines: Schedule 4, Part 4, Division 2, Item 35. - The way in which the product can be sold, bought and used in australia. http://www.comlaw.gov.au/Details/F2011C00308 The National Code of Kava Management (from NT site, but clearly stated as a NATIONAL code) - Rules, regulations, guidelines and penalties for disregarding them. http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodisp/au/legis/nt/consol_reg/kmr244/notes.html?stem=0&synonyms=0&query=%22nt%20consol_reg%20kmr244%22#disp1 KavaManagement Act 2001.pdf

Cant see it very well but isn't it suppossed to stay that way? It looks like one of the succulents I have, what were you expecting? Unless i am mistaken?

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=8377312 A Darwin man has been given $100,000 compensation after he was wrongly accused of bringing drugs into Australia in shampoo and conditioner bottles. Neil Parry was arrested in June last year at Darwin Airport and charged with trafficking 1.6 kilograms of liquid ecstasy in two bottles of Pantene. After spending three days in jail last year, and having friends' homes searched, Mr Parry was granted bail. Customs later admitted the toiletries contained no illegal drugs andall charges against Mr Parry were dropped. On Monday Mr Parry told ABC Radio he had been given $100,000 in compensation for his ordeal and an apology. "It is not worth it, no," Mr Parry said. "I would rather it never happened," he said. He said most of the money would go towards his legal expenses. http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=8377312

Getting a little OCD tipzy my friend? I am thinking maybe the peruvianus might have a little bridge in her... just from the second photograph. Anyway, they are all trichs as far as one could tell.

Holy shit, you luuuuuuuuuck mofo I can really only say fo sure that the final 'san pedro' labeled one is a Trichocereus Bridgessi The peruvianus looks correct and the fiirst looks like a trichocereus pachanoi or a cross. WHAT a finddd! good work buddy!

Yeah i saw the other one you started Torsten. Feel free to post the link elsewhere, it took a while to find it.

Here is the actual amendment bill http://www.legislation.qld.gov.au/Search/isysquery/191142af-7d08-428f-beae-4832e728ad40/1/doc/CriminalOLAB11Exp.pdf#xml=http://www.legislation.qld.gov.au/Search/isysquery/191142af-7d08-428f-beae-4832e728ad40/1/hilite/ Clause 44 provides that Part 6 amends the Drugs Misuse Act 1986. Clause 45 amends section 4 (Definitions) to insert a new definition of ‘Australian Crime Commission’ and to amend the definition of ‘dangerous drug’ by replacing the phrase at paragraph ©: ‘and that has a substantially similar pharmacological effect’ with the phrase: ‘and that - (i) has a substantially similar pharmacological effect; or (ii) is intended, or apparently intended, to have a substantially similar pharmacological effect’.

Heya all! As some of you very well know, i have been growing tube stock, because i love plants. Anyway, lots seeds were sown and suprisingly, lots sprouted! So basically i have some stuff for sale. At the moment: 4 x Tabernaemontana Pandacaqui (Banana bush) 15-20cm high - $10 ea & 6 x Acacia Farnesiana (Sweet Acacia) 10-15cm high - $8 ea (Acacia Farnesiana is a weed in some states and is naturalised in others, please consider this when purchasing and when deciding on where to plant them) Postage will either be $7 reg post or $11 express and will be sent at the beginging of each week. They will be sent in tubes unless otherwise stated and im happy to send where-ever in Aus at the BUYER'S own RISK but i will seek agvise on ensuring their safe transit.. PM

Hahaha I am the MASTER of cannulation! Sucks when that happens, did they end up getting an anaesthetist? or Ultrasound? Loooksss mega gnarly! Hope theyve hooked you up with good stuff - oxy and the works. Hope the infection fails and it starts healing up nicely - if it doesnt start healing or if people start coming up to you in gown/gloves without doing a procedure, expect you have a hospital aquired infection. Let me know if you need anything explained, i work in healthcare so i can give you a low down

I havent had my meds today so i spent most of time with my garden just stroking and admiring the new growth on my cacti One pup in particular It has grown quite a bit since then butyou get the gist Apart from that, A bit of weeding and propagating succulents but im putting off this weeks fert until after it rains tonight/tomorrow. Plant wise i did heaps of planting out, fert, repotting and stuff. Got some acacia and bamboo in the ground

Sounds like you went/were about to go septic man! Keep up the abs and you'll be fine, hopefully you didnt/wont get any systemic symptoms. All they best make! Fingers crossed they dont skimp on your pain meds

Obtus has cyanide deriv's in it. I know you mean in general Mycot but for reiteration sake in this topic...

I REEEEALLY wish i was going to EGA. My freeaaking goodness, this literature is wonderfully put together and it just makes me yearn the symposium even more Thank you so much RonnySim

For those in South East Queensland or nearby. A day focused on bushtucker, plants, food, history and educational conversation 12th - 13th November 2011 Only a Gold Coin Donation - proceeds to local Charity Redcliffe Peninsula http://www.dreamtime.auz.net/default.asp?PageID=232 Before European settlement over 220 years ago, the Australian Aborigines ate rich exciting and balanced diets of seasonal fruit, nuts, roots, vegetables, meat & fish all indigenous varieties and species and each totally adapted to this unique environment. Many Australians have never even tasted bush foods and yet the variety and quality of culinary experiences they offer is enormous and the Aborigines are generous in sharing their knowledge learnt over 100,000 years of trial and error of harvesting and ways of preparation for cuisine and medicine. Therefore it is the pleasure of Michael & Jo Connolly of DREAMTIME KULLILLA-ART to invite you to their BUSH Bush Tucker Day - Michael ConnollyTUCKER DAY to be held here on the beautiful Redcliffe Peninsula on Saturday 12th November 2011 (10:00am - 7:00pm) and Sunday 13th November 2011 (8:00am to 3:00pm) at Webb Hall, Redcliffe Showgrounds, Scarborough Road, Redcliffe Only a GOLD COIN DONATION . This is a great opportunity to start your Christmas Shopping and also learn to cook using bush foods and get some bush food supplies to try at home. BUSH TUCKER DAY III will hopefully answer many of your questions about how to build your own bush tucker garden; is the bush food industry sustainable; what can you do to invest in the bush tucker future; and experience the taste of bush tucker Australia Michael & Jo are proud to be able to present this event and have secured the talents of Dale Chapman the Dilly Bag Bush Tucker Chef and Graeme & Veronica from Witjuti Grub Bushfood Nursery Kenilworth and Sam Martin from Sacred Oz Productions and other Bush Tucker professionals The PROGRAM: The Dilly Bag Marquee (beside Hall) - What's On Welcome to the event and an introduction to the day's program Bush Tucker Cooking Demo/Workshop with Dale Chapman of The Dilly Bag - Coolamon Food Creations Bush Tukka Adventures with Samantha Martin - a segment of film running throughout the day Top Chefs will demonstrate the unique use of bush foods and what is available from their local restaurants including Tukka's Restaurant, West End and Echidna Magic Restaurant, Mt Gravatt Profiling a range of edible and useful plants ready for any Queensland garden with Graeme & Veronica from Witjuti Grub Bushfood Nursery Sunday Breakfast Session - informal chatting - EVERYTHING YOU WANTED TO KNOW ABOUT BUSH FOOD AND ITS FUTURE Bush Tukka Adventures with Samantha Martin - a segment of film running throughout the day Native Tongue Catering "let your tastebuds go walkabout" with Kate and Gail - an introduction to the new kids on the bush tucker block There will also be lots of bush tucker tastings throughout the day including a range of liqueurs made from the native bush fruits by Rainforest Liqueurs of Maleny an Australian Indulgence!! To sustain you throughout the day there will be food available from the Bush Tucker Canteen that will tantalise your taste buds a variety of fresh sandwiches smoked kangaroo, bush tomato & rocket pizza Moo & Roo sauage sizzle Chicken Satay stick with lemon myrtle coconut sauce Warrigal Greens Quiche & Native Salad (gluten free/vegetarian) Native cordials Native Tea and Dale's famous Lemon Myrtle Cheesecake AND LOTS MORE..... REAL Cappuccino which will be available all day from the Coffee Van. Michael and Jo will also have their full range of Bush Tucker products which will include native jams, sauces, herbs & spices, native fruits and meat, native flavour cheeses Bush Tucker Day - Jo & Daleand much much more AS WELL AS their range of Aboriginal Art & Craft products an ideal time for some early Christmas Shopping. Credit/EFTPoS facilities will be available for product purchases so don't forget to bring your money along. There will also be some raffles and giveaways throughout the day so should be lots of fun. http://www.dreamtime.auz.net/default.asp?PageID=232 Flyer http://www.dreamtime.auz.net/images/bushtucker/Bush%20Tucker%20Day/Bush%20Tucker%20Flyer_A4%20OCT11.jpg

It's pretty interesting that Customs would apply for a civil matter against the party importing. As Customs are part of the Federal Government, it would be understandable to bring criminal charges against the party as they have the immediate means of arrest/prosecution etc. and they can make the case fit their means of attack to attain a conviction based on the party being guilty 'Beyond reasonable doubt." Although with the tightly sealed Criminal Code above, theyve really got 95% of cases in the bag. Civil law however involves a personal action, based on the "Balance of probabilities" for the 'compensation' for wrongs. (Disclaimer - a question, not a statement) So really... If you are found trying to import something and it doesnt have your name on it/you deny it is yours (there is reasonable doubt you may not have requested it). Customs with the funding/assistance of the Fed Gov could still bust in the PARTY's door, take said party's computer/reciepts/credit card statements/family/pets/etc and use that to tilt the 'balance of probabilites' in their favour, throw the party infront of a court (also funded/assisted by the fed gov), and ensure they were properly compensated BY THE PARTY? This then opening the matter of further criminal charges to ensue for their new evidence? Maybe my small knowledge is a bad thing, and should be stopped. Good-luck Alive, and maybe it's not a good idea to tell us if you get it through, for the children.

Love the spring flowers. Feel free to share your own, infact you should feel obliged to share your spring pics for us all to gasp and gawp and gaggle at! Acacia Maidenii - from seed Acacia Complanata - from seed Acacia Acuminata - from seed Aptenia Cordifolia - from cuttings - thanks next door Astrophytum Myriostigma Var Strongylogonum Datura Metel var Fastuosa - From seed, thanks Blowng Pach - Sexy new growth - from cutting Tabernaemontana corymbosa - from cuttings Tabernaemontana Pandacaqui - from seed Brugmansia Peach - thanks Gom Penis! Turbinicarpus Lophophorioides Citrus Australasica Psychotria Daphinoides Thanks for looking - the photos are all from the begining of september so a lot has changed since then so i will updae with more it people contribute Enjoy spring!

Another update: Acacia Floribunda Acacia Acuminata Acacia Maidenii Seeding B Caapi Rustic looking flowers Acacia Obtusifolia Acacia Macradenia Acacia Acuminata