apothecary Posted March 31, 2006 Time to batten down the hatches people. This is the big one if you ask me. Gonna be tightening up all communications from here on in. This probably also means the chat is gonna have to be relocated and reimplemented using a much more secure solution. Who said we weren't on a slipper slope? =============================================================== http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200603/s1605265.htm Civil libertarians have raised concerns about new laws allowing crime agencies to access the phone calls, emails and text messages of people who are not suspected of committing a crime. New legislation passed by Federal Parliament yesterday allows the Australian Security Intelligence Organisation (ASIO), Australian Federal Police and some other government agencies to get warrants for information stored by telecommunications companies. Federal Attorney-General Philip Ruddock says the laws are needed to allow full investigation of serious crimes. Cameron Murphy from Australian Council of Civil Liberties says they are an invasion of privacy. "The legislation does nothing to protect the rights of innocent people," he said. "These new powers allow police for the first time to tap the phones of innocent third parties, people who are not themselves even suspected of a criminal offence." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rev Posted March 31, 2006 so just tell me when i should disconnect my phone services altogether its seeming such a liability i could get used to not having them again and using net cafes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
apothecary Posted March 31, 2006 Until they hire "monitors" to hang around internet cafes and check on peoples browsing like in China :/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foolsbreath Posted March 31, 2006 Sad but true, The erosion of our civil rights is one more step towards a totalitarian society This is an example of the greater good for society outweighs the rights of any individual. If this is allowed, it will be much easier for the government to pass similar laws in the future as there will already be a benchmark that politicians will be able to compare the proposed legislation to in judicial proceedings etc etc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
botanika Posted April 3, 2006 Until they hire "monitors" to hang around internet cafes and check on peoples browsing like in China :/ Id be more worried about ASIO than chinese internet cafe monitors... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
apothecary Posted April 3, 2006 (edited) Why? The internet monitors report all suspicious activity right back to the Ministry of Public Security, and they are much worse than ASIO Edited April 3, 2006 by apothecary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rev Posted April 3, 2006 yeah funny thing is they could get as bad easily and because of the new detention laws no-one would even be able to alert the public to it There are countries in the world with rigid political systems who'll let you live your life as you please so long as you dont get involved in politics and mafia and bring in those tax dollars and then there are countries like australia who want much more they want to know everything about you, smart card you, tap you , track you, silence you while we become more and more regulated and spied on, the governmnet becomes less transparent and less accountable. China and eastern europe are opening up in a big way just as we close down. China is still a one party system but if you arent in politics wheres the problem? well its a hell of a reform since maos cultural revolution anyway And look at the democratic spirit at work in old eastern bloc states i know nothing. tell me, anyone, where is this heading? what can we expect once johnny is gone? will we get our freedoms back if the coalition goes? or is this just the begginning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
botanika Posted April 3, 2006 There are countries in the world with rigid political systems who'll let you live your life as you please so long as you dont get involved in politics and mafia and bring in those tax dollarsand then there are countries like australia who want much more they want to know everything about you, smart card you, tap you , track you, silence you China and eastern europe are opening up in a big way just as we close down. China is still a one party system but if you arent in politics wheres the problem? well its a hell of a reform since maos cultural revolution anyway Exactly! The ebb and flow of societies... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leo^ Posted April 3, 2006 A mate of mine got his phone tapped, he says u can tell from things like slight change in pitch. He told his wife to call everyone she knew and talk crap for a week, morning till night everyday. They stopped tapping it after a week Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
botanika Posted April 3, 2006 (edited) i know nothing. tell me, anyone, where is this heading? what can we expect once johnny is gone? will we get our freedoms back if the coalition goes? or is this just the begginning. I know nothing either, I am zen, always the beginner. But I sort of feel like australia is small change in the wallet of the west. We can rattle around a bit, we look all shiney and bronze, but we're still stuck in the back pockets of the US and Britain. Some of us might be fortunate enough to be spent on candy, some of us might fall out into the grass and gleam in the sun but most of us are being fed into the slot machines: the piggy banks and parking meters of society Edited April 3, 2006 by botanika Share this post Link to post Share on other sites