MORG Posted March 6, 2006 Here's something some of you might find interesting. Full-text paper attached. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- AUTHOR: JONATHAN OTT TITLE: THE DELPHIC BEE: BEES AND TOXIC HONEYS AS POINTERS TO PSYCHOACTIVE AND OTHER MEDICINAL PLANTS SOURCE: Economic Botany 52 no3 260-6 Jl/S '98 ABSTRACT Herein a brief review, with 49 references, of the history and phytochemistry of toxic honeys, in which bees have sequestered plant secondary compounds naturally occurring in plant nectars (floral and extrafloral). It is hypothesized that such toxic honeys could have served as pointers to psychoactive and other medicinal plants for human beings exploring novel ecosystems, causing such plants to stand out, even against a background of extreme biodiversity. After reviewing various ethnomedicinal uses of toxic honeys, the author suggests that pre-Columbian Yucatecan Mayans intentionally produced a psychoactive honey from the shamanic inebriant Turbina corymbosa as a visionary substrate for manufacture of their ritual metheglin, balché. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- What does this say about the stability of LSA? I don't know much about apiculture or mead production in pre-Columbian South America, but it seems the alkaloids have survived the process, something I didn't think likely from what I've learned. Interesting. DelphicBee.htm DelphicBee.htm DelphicBee.htm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
woof woof woof Posted March 7, 2006 yeah,...cool article.... ha ha - first heard of honey from poisonus plants and also once heard of honey from daturas - he he he Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Salviador Posted March 7, 2006 There is some speak of lsa being produced by fungus? Honey would be a great place for fungus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benzito Posted March 11, 2006 Isn't honey actually quite sterile, and somewhat anti-biotic? I don't think it would be a good fungus host, to be honest.... But I'm no expert. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hagakure Posted March 19, 2006 you are correct i think benzito. i heard thaht one of the best ways to store psychoactive mushrooms in damp, humid conditions is to store them in honey. honey wll prevent degredation by other types of fungi or bacteria and preserve sensitive psychoactive compounds within the mushrooms. i dont think people do it much these days cause it gets messy. drying is much simpler. i think you need to get organic unprocessed hiney for it to work properly too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
amanito Posted May 12, 2006 Iwrote an article about it , to bad for you guys the site is in dutch. I think it would be very interesting to have a large greenhouse with only one species with psychoactive flowers and have bees in it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
in_spirit Posted May 13, 2006 It is believed that the jews, when they walked through the deserts and God sent manna down to feed them - manna being believed to be psych. mushrooms - read the desciption of manna in the bible? - The jews preserved this manna - for future jews that they may still know GOD - in pots of honey and sealed up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
darkhorse Posted May 14, 2006 yea i've heard that one before, so I went to Exodus book ??:?? and realised that its a very plausible explanation, especially as some shroom experiences have a very spiritual feel to them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
