Torsten Posted February 20, 2006 I think it is unwise for SAB to continue selling Nic0tiana seeds and plants due to legal reasons. We will cease selling N.rus tica and N.tab acum seeds in 2 weeks, so stock up if you want them. I am not sure about other species as yet, nut will probably phase them out shortly too. I will give a full explanantion of my reasons in 2 weeks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
prier Posted February 21, 2006 About how long will these seeds stay viable? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rev Posted February 21, 2006 rus tica can last over 5 years with ease have quite viable seed from 2001 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Torsten Posted February 21, 2006 hmmmm, most of my 5 year old nic0tiana seed is pretty dead. I'd aim for 3 before growing them out - especially if you only have a small number. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
prier Posted February 22, 2006 cool, I'll have to put an order in soon. I don't smoke the stuff but a lot of my friends do and it'd be great to just give them some, saves them paying for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rev Posted February 27, 2006 T i would agree on the cautionary i think the rus fare better than the tab cos they have much larger seeds Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
indigo264nm Posted February 28, 2006 Must be a pretty damned good reason to be writing like they do in spam letters. Am wondering whether such an action would be applied to the AFSR if it's that serious... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyAmine. Posted February 28, 2006 Must be a pretty damned good reason to be writing like they do in spam letters. Which spam letters are you reffering too? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Qhorakuna tantani Posted February 28, 2006 A lot of spam emails write with certain key words broken up and some words written in l33t so that antispam programs don't pick them up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
indigo264nm Posted February 28, 2006 ^^^ yup... some examples from my junk box: "Our R|O|L|E|X Watches rock!" "Hello, How WouId you Iike to spend Iess on your PíIlss? ViAGRRÁ VALLìUM ClALíSS and many other." "Hello, AnMbien LnEvitra CnElebrex UxLtram VnAlium $85,45 PxRozac MnEridia PxRopecia XnAnax Vxlagra $69,95 Cnlalis $99,95 Get more info Best Regards." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Torsten Posted February 28, 2006 yep, there is a good reason. let's just say that spam filters work similar to search engines Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrBumpy Posted March 1, 2006 after re-reading the thread about 5 times... I think I finally get it -bumpy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ergoamide Posted March 15, 2006 Do we get the reason yet, i hate being left hangin like this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Torsten Posted March 15, 2006 Yes, here it is. the law says that it is illegal to sell, possess or grow 'tobaccco' plants or any part thereof. This makes all tobaccco seeds illegal. The law does not define tobaccco, which means that the interpretation rests on the oxford dictionary. This states that tobaccco = any species of the Nicot1ana genus. I have been in touch with the authorities and as far as they are concerned they would be happy if tobaccco was defined as the species rusti.ca and taba.cum only. It has also been indicated to me from another source that they have no interest in pursuing anyone growing one of the other species, but sometimes have to if put in a certain position. The struggle to have the word tobaccco defined has been goign on for 3 years, but I have only recently been told that in fact the only way to do so is by act of parliament. This cannot be done by the enforcing authorities themselves. It was hinted to me that I would be in a prime position to do so because I am familiar with the other species, the economic importance of the various species, and the use of these species in the horticultural trade (which is actually extensive and makes criminals out of hundreds of thousands of australians - including councils and botanic gardens). So, I am preparing a submission to several members of federal parliament to have this simply word defined. The speed of this will depend on whether I can generate enough interest with a particular member and I am just sorting through who I will approach about this. It would be unwise to get into trouble for selling the two primary species while in the process of dealing with legislators, so we will not sell these anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
carlturney Posted April 14, 2006 And to think that 10-15 years ago, the CSIRO in conjunction with the Victorian Department of Agriculture were selling "information kits" for $10 that included about 1/4 teaspoon of seeds, and a one page letter telling you how to grow the stuff. I've still got my copy somewhere. My my, how things change over time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Francois le Danque Posted April 24, 2006 why would the CSIRO do that for? seems a bit odd.... and hey T, what's with all the deliberate misspelling of ...words? tab.ac.um? please explain. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
transDiMenTional Posted April 24, 2006 and hey T, what's with all the deliberate misspelling of ...words? tab.ac.um? please explain. I believe T already explained that one frank! All to do with search engines....ring a bell? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rev Posted April 24, 2006 Fuck you B. A. T. boycott big T 0 bacco buy ch0pch0p Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
