Salviador Posted November 15, 2003 Ive got a pedro that was cut horizontal at the top, now there is a growth coming up from the calloused top and its only got 5 ridges, the same has happened to a smaller on i planted, it originally had 6 like normal ones now its only got 5 as well. Anyone know whats happened? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Absinthe Posted November 15, 2003 Some columnar cacti do not develop all their ridges straight away. How old is the new growth? If it is fairly large, perhaps there is genetic variation in the areoles where the shoot was born. Jon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest electro Posted November 15, 2003 ive also noticed this. I have some t bridgesii which pupped what looks like t bridgesii monstrose when cut. Funily enough one of my t bridg monstrose when cut pupped what looked like standard t bridgesii, then stopped growing and repupped from the tip again looking like monstrose ... strange but very interesting to watch .. ive also noticed that if you cut a plant in half it will generally pup in 3 - 4 places in summer (t bridg and t scop). If you then cut those pups they will pup in 2-3 places, then cut those pups and it will pup in 1 place and if you are lucky, a second slow growing pup will appear. maybe this was all coincidence, but of 5 cacti being experimented on, all showed generally the same trait. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
planthelper Posted November 15, 2003 pedros like doing that, they change the numbers of corners at "will"! the more corners the more value to the shaman, a real 4 cornered pachanoi (forget the common quadrangular look a like pedros) the highest, 5 and 6 edges are most common, 7 and higher are "special", 12 and higher cornered real pachanois are the most prized, 11 and 13 or 9 are wierdly called odd numbers and get less favored... 5 and 7 is ok for the brujos. just what i learned from, travelling south america... i am not so much in numerology but, if your 5 cornered pachanoi gets a, 13 cornered pup or top-, you are a winner. and i saw, and purchased some, in peru many years ago... 'the brujos at mercado modello in peru, spend hours talking about the influence of the numbers of the corners of SAN PEDRO regarding to POTENCY'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr b.caapi Posted November 15, 2003 how potent were these in south america planthelper? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
planthelper Posted November 16, 2003 i can honestly not say... i believe they are the same strengh as oz grown pedros. the size of some pedros there is thou incredible 40cm diametre trunks not uncommon. the flowers are divine in scent and open once just over night... [ 16. November 2003, 07:35: Message edited by: planthelper ] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Salviador Posted November 16, 2003 yeah the first is only about 8 cm tall and the other is about 15. I can see the ridge that its skipped so i suppose it will just grow out, hopefully into one of those 12 ridged ones! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr b.caapi Posted November 16, 2003 40cm diameter!!! awsome Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
woof woof woof Posted November 16, 2003 a person in Equador told me that the Pedros with 4 ridges are considered the best for spiritual work. San Pedro, Se nos proteje! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thelema Posted November 17, 2003 i once saw a baby 4 corner pach at Frasers, but didnt pick it up because at the time I thought it was likely a scop. It wasn't labelled, and I find it hard to tell the difference at baby levels, but it just felt "scoppish" and I hate scops, I get so much more of a lovely "vegetative-vibe" off pach and bridgesii... but anyway, I just Imagine if i had it right now, all big and fat 4-cornered trich pach in my yard...and apparantly some of them go purple too (like some loph) - not sure what this is due to - ? The purples are meant to be superpotent. So you end up with the myth of the gigantic purple 4-sided trich pach. Now that's something I'd love to hunt down in my travelling days! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
planthelper Posted November 17, 2003 i saw once a purple (i call them blue) pachanoi, the owner was unfortunately not willing to share, allthou unaware of his luck till i told him. a purple four winds pedro, what a awesome sight that would be! oh, let's add some flowers... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
