Zaka Posted March 11, 2013 Irie, So my sole peruvian flowered last month. I had read that you need two plants in order to get seed! And that novo would not cross with the peruvian! Well one of these two statements has got to be a myth.... Cos I got berries! Respect, Z I used this forum to keep it as private as poss. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 mira Posted March 11, 2013 Awesome! Did your seed grown havanese flower yet? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 planthelper Posted March 11, 2013 (edited) Irie, So my sole peruvian flowered last month. I had read that you need two plants in order to get seed! And that novo would not cross with the peruvian! Well one of these two statements has got to be a myth.... Cos I got berries! Respect, Z I used this forum to keep it as private as poss. i'm pretty sure the statement that, you need two novos to get seed is the incorect one. the "peruvian" though, could be self sterile, not 100% sure, but a solo plant i'v seen in europe, does flower, but never sets seeds, if my memory serves me correctly. Edited March 11, 2013 by planthelper Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 endorfinder Posted March 12, 2013 (edited) You only need one novo to set seed, it just has to be seed grown itself - plants grown from cuttings are sterile. I've never heard of anyone growing it from cutting anyway, apparently the strike rate is so low and the seed germination rate so high when fresh it's just not worth the trouble. What species is the "peruvian"? Of the South America Erythroxylums only E. novogranatense and E. coco set (viable) seed, and neither require a pair. My suspicion is that hybridisation would possible but difficult and probably result in self sterile offspring, but my only basis for that is the existence of self sterile cultivars. With the supposed explosion in Boliviana Negra (roundup resistant coca, self sterile), I can see seed grown plants becoming increasingly rare in South America, particularly novo "Columbian coca" since DEA eradication programs in Colombia are so aggressive. EDIT: I meant of the species that contain cocaine in significant quantities, I don't know what other Erythroxylum grows wild in SA but I'd have to assume they'd have some other species' that don't produce it since there are ~250 species of which only 4 cultivars are known to produce a desirable quantity and profile of alkaloids for its traditional usage. (I'd dearly like to be corrected on that last point though ) Edited March 12, 2013 by endorfinder 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 Zaka Posted March 12, 2013 (edited) Irie, I have a plethora of novo's (?). I have had one novo cutting take, though it died off due to being in the wrong spot! The e.coca were direct from peruvian berries, from Peru, must be about 4yrs old. I had only 2 pop, but one die early on. I'm not sure if these new berries will be a self coca or a hybrid novo???? It'll be interesting to grow out anyway! I lost the havanese, but they are a weed round here! Respect, Z Edited March 12, 2013 by Zaka 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 Anodyne Posted March 12, 2013 I have a plethora of novo's (100's). You do realise that that comment may cause our more sensitive members here to die of jealousy? Perhaps some kind of health warning is in order... Very interesting discussion! Love the photos - thanks Zaka. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 endorfinder Posted March 12, 2013 I have a plethora of novo's (100's). I have had one novo cutting take, though it died off due to being in the wrong spot! I hate you. Moving on... How many cuttings would you have attempted in order to strike one? According to wikipedia some self-sterile varieties of coca may be cultivars selected I'm not sure if these new berries will be a self coca or a hybrid novo???? They will be E. coca. If hybridisation is possible it's not easy - given how many ethno heads in more legally reasonable countries grow both, not to mention South American farmers, the hybrid would already exist somewhere. And coca is self fertile. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 Zaka Posted March 13, 2013 (edited) Irie, I hate you. Moving on... They will be E. coca. If hybridisation is possible it's not easy - given how many ethno heads in more legally reasonable countries grow both, not to mention South American farmers, the hybrid would already exist somewhere. And coca is self fertile. Love brother! I did just one but did take it seriously! Respect, Z Edited March 13, 2013 by Zaka Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0 migraineur Posted March 13, 2013 Which country in the Caribbean are you in? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Irie,
So my sole peruvian flowered last month.
I had read that you need two plants in order to get seed!
And that novo would not cross with the peruvian!
Well one of these two statements has got to be a myth....
Cos I got berries!
Respect,
Z
I used this forum to keep it as private as poss.
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