grafting trichocereus areoles

[mutant]

ocd huh? I thought psychedelics can break OCD pattern pretty easily. but Whatever

Yeah that's the point. Trichocereus does not provide a fast start to a graft. Like pereskiopsis, Selinicereus etc.

I will post tonight a lophophora that I made from areole on Selinicereus. I have cut the selini shorter, re rooted it, and planted.

No stock visible, lophophora unaturally bloated, yeah, but no stock shown.

so much for the bad aesthetics of selinicereus

But I know a bit about obsessions. Some zodiacs like Virgo and maybe Libra, especially when 'shocked' in their positions in the natal chart, create obessesive like patterns of thought. I got lots of VIrgo in my chart, but not 'shocked' and not in the most important positions [f.e. esoteric planets].

So even if I have to 'obey' to some of the obsessions, sometimes, this is rather rarer, lol. 'Obessions' really help learn or make some stuff better, but some obsessions are not logical or helping to learn anything at all.

And you know what they say, its a problem only when you recognise it to be one.

[Philocacti]

but they are bloody difficult grafts, in general, and probably very slow to establish aswell.

i mean if you cut a pedro, than it will take quite a while for the areolea (plural form) to produce a pup.

regarding my, loph areola grafts, nothing yet is happening either, but the union looks good and strong.

pedro areolae are much more difficult it seems, compared to loph's.

i like that you don't give up, and above graft pics look very good indeed.

btw, i only grafted a tbm (the normal way) once and it didn't grow any faster than on it's own roots.

maybe you're right but in my experience they pup right away, although there's always exceptions. My theory is that all the growth is forwarded to this lonely areol that was grafted that it pups right away, say between 2 weeks - a months after the graft has took

check these threads out, the only problem is that you have to be a member on The Nook

http://www.thenook.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=83020&st=0&p=901662&fromsearch=1entry901662

http://www.thenook.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=80540&st=0&p=871994&fromsearch=1entry871994

[mutant]

Well, I did not make many attempts, but the successful ones did not pup at once. It might be up to 20 days -one month, I am still waiting / hoping for a leuchtenbergia areole to pup, lol , 1,5 year after ! I am hoping because the union sems solid.

this [the big one] is the lopho that is coming from a areole graft. it's not more than 2 years old, probably 1,5 years old from areole to this. The Initial pretty lonig and thick selinicereus stock , ~25cm long , was cut and rerooted in a more reasonable size so that the scion touches the soil. Bottom pups were removed prior to re-rooting. One of the pups already rooted and is the small one seen in the pic.

The mid sized one is a prior pereskiopsis graft, also pups were removed and grafted prior to re-rooting, only on this occasion the rooting [of the pereskiopsis] failed, but the demonic caespitosa nature of the lophophora graft forced it to root from the scion!

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[mushroomman]

Thanks for all the advice guys, it has helped heaps here are some pics of my first successful areole graft

1week after grafting

3 weeks

4 weeks

5 weeks

[GoOnThen]

Well done Mushroomman.

I haven't yet made a successful areole graft but I will succeed one day as I believe if you can do this with a high success rate its a brilliant way to propagate quickly.

Cheers

Got

[Jox]

Awesome work mate,

Stoked to see your patience has paid off ! Is the stock S.hamatus?

Cheers

Jox

[mushroomman]

Awesome work mate,

Stoked to see your patience has paid off ! Is the stock S.hamatus?

Cheers

Jox

Sure is bro, thanks for hooking me up with so much of it

I will have some cool cacti for you by the end of the next growing season.

[mushroomman]

Well done Mushroomman.

I haven't yet made a successful areole graft but I will succeed one day as I believe if you can do this with a high success rate its a brilliant way to propagate quickly.

Cheers

Got

Thanks GOT

I held the areole down with electrical tape with a bit of tissue on top of the areole so tape didn't stick to it , put half a coke bottle over it to keep the humidity up and left it on a dark shelf for a week before removing the tape and putting it in my grow box.

[Sallubrious]

My first foray into grafting was an attempt to graft Trich areoles to an Opuntia, they ended up drying out and falling off. I used much less tissue on the scion though, they were much thinner cuts than the ones in the early pics in this thread, so that could have been part of the problem.

I see most people are using Trichs for stock has anyone considered using a small Opuntia/ Opuntiod type of stock ?

I did a batch of standard grafts last night with a dwarf Opuntia as stock using the cling wrap method as seen in the youtube vid Next Generation Grafting.

The cling wrap would help to stop the areole from drying out before it takes and is an easy way to attach them, after they are joined and wrapped you can easily tweak the position to get the scion where you want it.

 

Edited August 19, 2013 by SallyD

[mushroomman]

I had no luck grafting thick ones like in my earlier posts. I have only had success using thin peices from close to the tip. I'll get a few opuntia cuttings this weekend and give it a go. I might try grafting some seedlings to it as well

The areole I grafted was from this TPM x SS02

[mushroomman]

My second areole graft on S.hamatus just starting to pup

Trichocereus validus areole grafted on the 25/8/2013

Edited September 29, 2013 by mushroomman

[mutant]

Note not all Opuntias work OK

Opuntia compressa is supposed to be the bomb. I got it , not tried it yet

great work on the areole grafts mushroomman

[mushroomman]

Thanks mutant

I was looking at pics the other day where someone successfully grafted a rib with about 5 areola to an opuntia it's now pupping in multiple places. Have you seen this done before mutant?

[mutant]

you mean like grafting a single areole, but instead you graft a whole rib of 5 areoles? no, not seen this. sounds like it would be visually interesting...

[Philocacti]

5 weeks ago I've done 2 LJareol grafts and both of them took and I believe they're about to pup. I'll post pics once they do.

From the pics I see all is in order, however, after I do my grafting I place a plastic bag over the graft/rootstock, like a condom, for 2-4 days so the areol won't dehydrate. After that I take the bags off so the areols won't rot.

IME Trichocereus areols are more tricky to graft than those of Lophophora.

Here's a few I've done 3 years ago

http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=31910&hl=%2Bareol+%2Bgraft#entry364432

Here's the SS02Xpachanoi graft today

Edited July 5, 2015 by Philocacti

[Philocacti]

Lumberjackus

The source, oldest areol on the stump

Did 2 areol grafts & both took

6 weeks later one pupped

Edited July 9, 2015 by Philocacti