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Papaver setigerum, rhoeas, or Frank's Wishful Thinking?


Francois le Danque

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So there I was, waiting for a train, a not unusual occurrence, when, out the corner of my eye, below the platform, I spied the familiar movement pattern of seed pods on long stalks, dancing in the cool breeze. I was intrigued.

Upon closer inspection, it was ascertained that the offending plants were indeed of the Papaveraceae, confirming my suspicions; though my taxonomical skills weren't up to the task of delineating further the genotypic makeup of the specimens.

If I were to hazard a guess, the optimist, small though he is, in me would determine them to be Papaver setigerum, though the difference in leaf structure from the usual 'somniferum is striking. Otherwise I suppose they might be Papaver rhoeas. If neither or either of these be the case, let it be known forthwith!

TLDR: setigerum, rhoeas or something else? pix below

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you're indeed a trainspotter

 

1,000 years from now there will be no guys and no girls, just wankers. Sounds great to me.

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Found this on a site. Describes all the types of Poppies found in Australia. Here is the link http://demo1.tmag.ta...paveraceae.html

Think the variety you spotted might be the one of the setigerums and maybe crossed with an eshcholzia or something if that's even possible, lol. very weird leaves?? or check the link and see which one best fits the description. does kind of look like an iceland poppy too. hope the link might help. Catchya

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also ED, see if you can guess which station it is WITHOUT looking too hard at the first picture...i think you will get it

 

heehee yeah, i grew up around the corner.it was our station. i know it well - good stuff franky baby

having the elongated/ovoid pod , rather than a bulbous/round/broad pod sure makes it look like ferret's suggestion of p.dub

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when was the new elevated line built senor drifter? it's obvious the station used to be at ground level.

as for the plant, does anyone know about the alkaloid content of this one? and no i am sure there are no 'opiates'. just wondering, all the poppies tend to have something useful. i am also supporting the conclusion that they are dubious.

although they aren't as hairy as most of the pictures i am finding online

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