Chef's Foreskin Posted April 14, 2012 Haha, I have never tried rice wine, isnt that cheap crap to them? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sethomopod Posted April 14, 2012 Haha, I have never tried rice wine, isnt that cheap crap to them? Sorta.... Depends on the area and income of the individual.. A rich Viet will only drink expensive alcohol.. Middle class drink it if they've been brought up on it, and have no need to show off.. I live in a farming district where $4-5 a day is alot to them.. even compared to 40c beers, the poorer people will go for the wine.. fucks em up though.. rots the thoughts... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chef's Foreskin Posted April 14, 2012 I think all alcohol rots the thoughts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sethomopod Posted April 14, 2012 I think all alcohol rots the thoughts Very true.. Here.. It's used to judge a mans strength... If you cant drink like a fish, they dont respect you so much.. They out do each other with sculling entire beers... cant drink for long though, the little fellas.. just hard and fast... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chef's Foreskin Posted April 14, 2012 I do love a good scull of a beer though Have you always lived in Vietnam? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sethomopod Posted April 14, 2012 No... My family has had the business here for 9 years, and i would come over for around 2-3 months of the year for the mango season... but I moved here for good 18 months ago... we have another 41 years left on our lease... (foriegners are not allowed to own land here) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chef's Foreskin Posted April 14, 2012 Wow!??? 41 years is a long lease though.. From Aus or US normally? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Psylo Posted April 14, 2012 Plus you can shoot AK 47's, Browning belt fed machine guns.. M60's.. all that shit.. and you dont have to kill anything if you dont want to.. That's a bit touristy down there at the tunnels, firing an AK that's permanently mounted to a tripod. For the true gun-nut, Cambodia has no such restrictive elements. One could arrange to go shooting farmers should the mood dictate. The War Remnants Museum in Saigon is also interesting at least for the human deformed foetus in a jar, and a chance to shake 'hands' with a Vietcong amputee. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chef's Foreskin Posted April 14, 2012 Wholey fuck!? Where else u been Psylo? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Psylo Posted April 14, 2012 I do love a good scull of a beer though Have you always lived in Vietnam? Lots of homebrew in Vietnam, its called Bia Hoi and ranges from excellent to disgusting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chef's Foreskin Posted April 14, 2012 I have heard some stories, a mate just went over there and was telling me how excited he is but how much he is shitting his pants.. I cant remember where he's goin but he wont be back in oz for almost another 6 months. Lucky bugger Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sethomopod Posted April 14, 2012 Wow!??? 41 years is a long lease though.. From Aus or US normally? Australia... That's a bit touristy down there at the tunnels, firing an AK that's permanently mounted to a tripod. For the true gun-nut, Cambodia has no such restrictive elements. One could arrange to go shooting farmers should the mood dictate. The War Remnants Museum in Saigon is also interesting at least for the human deformed foetus in a jar, and a chance to shake 'hands' with a Vietcong amputee. Haha.. yeah true... Good experience though for those who haven't had the chance to let off 600 rounds a minute.. Also agree with you about the museum (used to be called The War Crimes Museum, untill yanks got peeved).. The deformed foetus is an eye opener for sure... As well as the photos of deformities caused by Agent Orange that have afflicted babies for many years after the end the the war.. really terrible shit A.O. Did you see the sculputre of a person made from grenade fragments? (not sure what year you went) I was moved by that one.. Something about art made from instruments of death moves me.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sethomopod Posted April 14, 2012 Lots of homebrew in Vietnam, its called Bia Hoi and ranges from excellent to disgusting. Oh hell yeah.. forgot to mention Bia Hoi.... also Bia Om, (hopefully you get that) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chef's Foreskin Posted April 14, 2012 Did you see the sculputre of a person made from grenade fragments? I gotta search for a pic! I would never have imagined art made from 'instruments of death' as u call it Whats the difference with Bia Hoi and Bia Om? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Psylo Posted April 14, 2012 Bia Om is another form of popular entertainment in Saigon for male travellers. You now Seth, I did think it was called the War Crime Museum, and was surprised when I looked it up and it had the new name. Thatmust have changed only in the last few years. Those howitzer-style big guns in the courtyard are amazing, well the information plaques advising of their range just blew me away. I had no idea they could fire a round over 50km with accuracy (more I think with the bigger ones). Cu Chi is good to see the brutal forest traps that the South Vietnamese created to seriously impair the invaders. The greatest irony is that these were made from the remnants of the B-52 payloads that were dropped on them. Sweet, sweet justice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sethomopod Posted April 15, 2012 Bia Om is another form of popular entertainment in Saigon for male travellers. You now Seth, I did think it was called the War Crime Museum, and was surprised when I looked it up and it had the new name. Thatmust have changed only in the last few years. Those howitzer-style big guns in the courtyard are amazing, well the information plaques advising of their range just blew me away. I had no idea they could fire a round over 50km with accuracy (more I think with the bigger ones). Cu Chi is good to see the brutal forest traps that the South Vietnamese created to seriously impair the invaders. The greatest irony is that these were made from the remnants of the B-52 payloads that were dropped on them. Sweet, sweet justice. Yeah, not exactly sure what year it was..I remember a local telling me it was because of the offensiveness perceived by American tourists.. The term "War Crimes".. Even though there are the photos of troops posing next to severed heads, throwing people out of helicopters when refusing to grass... Hell, if the use of Agent Orange isnt a fucking war crime, then what is? It's destroyed generations of innocents.. Those booby traps are fantastic aren't they.. They used to smear shit on the barbs/spikes/nasties so they would hopefully die of infection.. The ingenuity of the Vietnamese will never cease to amaze me.. BEER HUG!!!! Although you dont hug beers, or vice versa.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chef's Foreskin Posted April 15, 2012 They used to smear shit on the barbs/spikes/nasties so they would hopefully die of infection.. That is just HECTIC! Does anyone know where I can find links/info on this museum? LOL yeah the beer hug analogy dosent make too much sense but sounds weirdly insane (from what I read goes on) Alot of other things I red about 'Nam is they constantly try to rip off Westerner's? Are many foreign country's like that? RF Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sethomopod Posted April 15, 2012 (edited) That is just HECTIC! Does anyone know where I can find links/info on this museum? LOL yeah the beer hug analogy dosent make too much sense but sounds weirdly insane (from what I read goes on) Alot of other things I red about 'Nam is they constantly try to rip off Westerner's? Are many foreign country's like that? RF Didnt watch it.. but it'll probably have some info.. The booby traps are actually at the Cu Chi Tunnels, outside Saigon. The War Remnants Museum is in Saigon.. http://en.wikipedia....hi_Minh_City%29 Basically, Bia Om is a place where pretty girls wearing little, serve you beer and sit with you.. The amount of intimacy allowed varies from innocent to "Having a beer with a hooker before you nail her"... Yes, They try to rip off westerners constantly.. You just have to learn how to deal with it.. Edited April 15, 2012 by sethomopod Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chef's Foreskin Posted April 15, 2012 Makes me wanna go! another box for the bucket list Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Psylo Posted April 15, 2012 Alot of other things I red about 'Nam is they constantly try to rip off Westerner's? Are many foreign country's like that? I suppose it depends if youre seen as an easy mark. I never felt I got ripped off, or tried to get ripped off during time spent in Vietnam. And in parts of India, in fact people's honesty when it came to money was startling. Somewhere like parts of Thailand though.... that's a whole other story. They have got deception of westerners down to a fine art. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sethomopod Posted April 17, 2012 Well, Incog should be in Cambodia by now.. I wonder how he's going... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Marcel Posted April 17, 2012 Well, Incog should be in Cambodia by now.. I wonder how he's going... He emailed me a photo this morning. I think he's found his religion. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sethomopod Posted April 17, 2012 He emailed me a photo this morning. I think he's found his religion. A Bulbin' Buddhist! Nice one! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sethomopod Posted April 17, 2012 (edited) I suppose it depends if youre seen as an easy mark. I never felt I got ripped off, or tried to get ripped off during time spent in Vietnam. And in parts of India, in fact people's honesty when it came to money was startling. Somewhere like parts of Thailand though.... that's a whole other story. They have got deception of westerners down to a fine art. I gotta say, you must've been lucky. Either that or you have the face of some one not to be fucked with (doesn't mean you're not handsome ) All up, I've spent nearly 3 years here, and what I've learnt is that the Vietnamese people occupy the broadest of spectrum's.. I have experienced the whole dynamic and within a short period of time.. I have had the slimiest of slime try to squeeze me.. trust me.. I actually do business here, not just float from bar to bar to temple to bar. (not directed personally Psylo.. I'm talkin tourist types..) I see the scheming day to day.. Again, trust me, I can verify that the government themselves hold no value in a legally binding contract...(oh god I could go on....) I have also experienced hospitality not known to white Australia. I have been to many very poor farmers homes, where, while drinking and eating and talking about mangoes, I would look over at their garden and spot a nice cactus or plant and comment how nice it is..They always either gave me the whole plant or snapped off a cutting.. I have had poor farmers put on a feed of monumental proportions.. spending a months wages in one day... As I mentioned before, They will not let me or my father perform strenuous work.. Especially my father.. If they see him lift something heavy, they literally run to help him.. even small things like making sure my father has the coldest beer.... They even treat my children as their own..When we go to restaurants, the owners will take our children and look after them while we eat.. Another positive, The Viet people adore children! You have to see it to believe it.. They way the dote on kids is heart warming.. The community spirit here is unknown to those how have not experienced it.. Everyday, I see the best and worst of Viet Nam.. Probably not the absolute worst!, but the lower end of the spectrum. (Our 100 hectare farm is in an area that is very very rural..I mean a few hundred people using one well to wash clothes and cooking/ eating utensils.) And when I think about it,, When I weigh the pros's and con's.... I would rather be here than in Australia....It is very hard to describe unless you've been in my shoes... I can hear people rejecting my claims on humanitarian reasons.. Again.. very hard to explain.. Maybe Incognito can elaborate when I show him, Maybe we can write about his journey here.. seeing these things..... I want to write more but I have 3 more tiger beers in my belly than I want... Edit.... Talked to Incog.. He gets into Cambodia tomorrow. I hope he has a ball.... Edited April 17, 2012 by sethomopod Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
