Torsten Posted February 12, 2012 I know it doesn't say anything about plants, but keep in mind that the proposed model schedules were mostly about precursors and drugs rather than about plants. It's just that we focussed on the plants in our fight. http://au.news.yahoo.com/a/-/latest/12883613/police-seek-drug-chemical-import-changes/ Police seek drug chemical import changes AAP February 13, 2012, 2:12 am Police say a loophole in federal laws is allowing chemicals used by drug gangs to make amphetamines to be imported into Australia. Fairfax reports the precursor chemicals are being legally brought into Australia even though it's illegal to possess them in most states under a series of local laws. "We've got situations where some precursor chemicals are legal to come in, but once they're in Victoria and elsewhere, they become illegal because they're a (banned) drug," Victoria Police Superintendent Gerry Ryan has told Fairfax. State authorities, the Australian Federal Police and Customs are preparing a proposal to the federal government to make the importation of the chemicals illegal, which would close the loophole. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seldom Posted February 13, 2012 (edited) can't help but notice you say it mostly addresses precursors and drugs, do you have any info on the specifics of what will be included in the proposal relating to plants? Edited February 13, 2012 by bulls on parade Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
myco Posted February 13, 2012 it doesnt seem to have anything to do with the plants all this law crap is a little confusing to me but this seems like a whole new proposal they seem to be going after anthing they can maybe the plant thing isnt going through so they're trying anything else they can come up with it does say in the article Federal Police and Customs are preparing a proposal to the federal government to make the importation of the chemicals illegal im probably wrong here but to me it seems like something completely different to the proposed plant laws Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Torsten Posted February 13, 2012 the only proposal published was the one from last year which is why I would not be surprised if this is the one that incldues the plants. myco, I read the article and I know it doesn't say anything about plants. That's the whole point. I had always suspected this would be presented to parliament at the point where there is some urgency about drug manufacturing in the media, so that no one bothers looking at the rest of it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Distracted Posted February 13, 2012 (edited) Last year i'm pretty sure they may have been talking about this, i read an article in The Advertiser about them wanting to restrict certain solvents from being sold at hardware stores, sorry i can't remember any specifics. I found it a bit ridiculous and haven't heard anything about it since.. but it is a little worrying. The wording of the article I read last year reminded me strongly of the plant scheduling... so this thread just reminded me of it. edit: actually after re-reading your linked article.. i'm thinking it's less to do with what we can buy in australia and more to do with what we can order overseas. Edited February 13, 2012 by Distracted Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Torsten Posted February 13, 2012 distracted, if you read the actual proposal from last year you will see it covers many precursors that are typically imported rather than made here. Even if ther eis some new proposal, it would still be a subset of the one from last year, which is why I doubt they would separate them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seldom Posted February 14, 2012 it would still be a subset of the one from last year i saw another article in the herald about it today, unremarkebly there's no mention of the fact that the proposal for changing the legislation for precursor imports may be the same proposal which was put forward to outlaw so many entheogenic plants from last year. i didn't actually realise that was the case until reading ^ post. http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/political-news/loophole-in-drug-chemical-import-20120212-1szto.html what would be so bad about having open debate about this? why attach it to such a seedy, clearly evil activity like meth production? makes me sick to think it may be played out in such an underhanded way 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites