Jonstn Posted February 6, 2012 Hey all thought i'd share this little bugger i found this morning: It was IDd last year as either a T.schickendantzii (because of its clumping characteristics) or a spach. Here's what it looked like when i first found it: all the columns fell off while planting, it was very fragile, here's what it looks like now: And while im at it, there was some really shitty bits that i just wrapped up in a bag and forgot about, here's what the look like now: I do have a few questions about the crest, going to utse after work tonight but figure I'll ask the experts first Will detaching the crest pose any risk of it going back to normal? Would it be a better idea to leave it attached to grow some more, and possibly detaching the non crested pup so it doesn't have to worry about making that bit grow? Cheers for the help everyone, pretty wrapped ATM wasn't expecting to see that on my morning walk past Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bush Turkey Posted February 6, 2012 it looks like its just gonna go dicho not crested Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonstn Posted February 6, 2012 Ahhh cheers turkey, either way it looks cool ATM hahaha 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chef Posted February 6, 2012 dicho!???? i dont care what it is i like it is that grown from seed mate? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bert&Ernie Posted February 6, 2012 i think it means like two headed or something like that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chef Posted February 6, 2012 that sounds pretty cool to me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chef Posted February 6, 2012 i wonder if it has anything to do with that wank off aus idol?? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evil Genius Posted February 6, 2012 Looks nice. Im pretty sure that the mutant growth was induced by spider mite damage so chances are its going back to normal at some point. But cant say for sure so Please update. bye Eg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonstn Posted February 6, 2012 Cheers for all the words guys nah chef I didn't grow it from seed found it on an abandoned property in a pot, very very root bound. Here's the orig post where I got it IDd http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=29281&hl=&fromsearch=1 Will definitely keep ya's updated EG, there's a good 8+ columns in the wine barrel with at least 2 pups on each, this is the first one to show any mutation, all the others are coming up fine. Didn't notice (or look out for) any mites or anything, there's is a butt tonne of ants in the barrel though got a nice nest going in there the bastards Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonstn Posted March 8, 2012 Starting to separate by the looks of it looks funky lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2Deep2Handle Posted March 8, 2012 dichotomous This 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonstn Posted March 8, 2012 I keep trying to change the topic title to what it is but it's not letting me edit it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evil Genius Posted March 8, 2012 What do you want to change it to? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonstn Posted March 8, 2012 Was just goin to change crested to dichotomous and take off the 'my first' lol Thinking of taking a pic of it every few weeks or so and make a little anim out of it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Foo Posted March 8, 2012 (edited) Nice plant, looks simular to a small plant i got called spach. Edited March 8, 2012 by eatfoo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bush Turkey Posted March 9, 2012 most def dicho i love em. most def not spach Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonstn Posted March 9, 2012 Not spach? What do you think it is BT? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bush Turkey Posted March 9, 2012 (edited) i think blowng is on the right track in your ID thread EDIT. or maybe even T. candicans? Edited March 9, 2012 by Bush Turkey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evil Genius Posted March 9, 2012 (edited) It is nearly impossible to differentiate between Echinopsis Spachiana and Echinopsis Schickendantzii without having seen the flower. Echinopsis schickendantzii has Flowers with dense black hairs and E. spachianus has Flowers that are densely hairy. Also, schickendantzii flower is said to have no scent. Spachianus has a solitary central spine, what i can see on this picture. The problem starts with the fact that no one really knows what was described as Echinopsis Spachaniana Lemaire so its open to suggestion what they meant. Personally, i think it is whatr people understand as a Spachianus, simply because all the so called schickendantzii´s i´ve seen are more rounded. I have a huge Trichocereus Shaferi what is a synonym for Schickendantzii and it looks totally diffrent. Columnar and pretty much like Spachiana. I think Spachiana and Schickendantzii are synonymous with each other. Differences are minor and seem to be caused by natural hybridism. So you´r all right. Edited March 9, 2012 by Evil Genius Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zelly Posted March 9, 2012 sorry, but the plant in the pictures is not spachianus. I have arse loads of pictures of spachianus somewhere on my hd, including flowers....just a matter of finding them... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evil Genius Posted March 9, 2012 (edited) Maybe we´re using diffrent plants as standard because we´re on diffrent markets. The plant definately fits the description of a plant that you´d get when you´d buy Spachianus in Europe. As mentioned, its possible that some people may sell other forms as spachianus as well. Would be interested in seeing the pics because if i type spachianus in google, i see pics of plants that look like this as well. Not saying google is a good tool to ID cacti but it gives a vague overview about the plants being sold under that name. But you know what? You could be right! It could be a Huascha. I totally forgot about that species. They clump and look similar as well. Changed my mind, i think its Huascha now. Please post pics of the Spachianus if you find em. Wanna see what you meant. Edited March 9, 2012 by Evil Genius Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bush Turkey Posted March 9, 2012 (edited) ahh huasca, how did that slip my mind. Huasca has red flowers right EG??? ive never seen what we call spach bend like that. it likes to grow as straight as possible. This is some spach i took photo's of in rural Victoria... http://www.shaman-au...0_508_75817.jpg EDIT. Jonstn, is that the one that is growing in front of your shed??? Edited March 9, 2012 by Bush Turkey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evil Genius Posted March 9, 2012 The flower of Echinopsis Huascha is very variable. Seen them in all colors but most of them are red or reddish. Have one myself somewhere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonstn Posted March 9, 2012 Yeah BT it's the one you saw When I found it on the abandoned property the pot was laying horizontal, absolutely chocked out with columns that layed across the ground for about 30+cms then started to curve up, I just assumed they were bent because of the way they were laying. Thanks for all the help with IDing and whatnot everyone hell appreciated Share this post Link to post Share on other sites