bℓσωηG Posted July 1, 2011 (edited) A wee bit lonely this one , i have never before seen them in WA , so was wondering has anyone else seen them over here , are they fairly sparse? Edited July 1, 2011 by bℓσωηG Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
myco Posted July 1, 2011 wat the fuck do you mean western australia ????? there was only the first report of some found in manjimup not to long ago other than that they've never been found here in w.a. before where the fuck dd you find this guy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheExplorer Posted July 1, 2011 (edited) Here's a good journal to read: http://australasianmycology.com/pages/pdf/29/1/4.pdf Looks like you may have found a pretty random specimen. Over on my side in VIC, NSW & TAS they grow like a weed. All of the Pinus Radiata plantations are absolutely full of them. e.g. They also sometimes have some tasty long-stem subs: Edited July 1, 2011 by TheExplorer Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naja naja Posted July 1, 2011 Nice find, that'd be the 3rd report in 3 years now. At this rate it won't take long till they are abundant. Another psychoactive mushy in W.A., yay! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bℓσωηG Posted July 2, 2011 Nice find, that'd be the 3rd report in 3 years now. At this rate it won't take long till they are abundant. Another psychoactive mushy in W.A., yay! Keep your eyes peeled naja naja, i found this one very very close to where you are... in the pines...i left it where it was and will check next month if any more have come up.. invasive / non native they may be, but they have a vacant niche amongst the invasive / non native trees that have replaced native forests.. radiata pines galore here . Ha and i was just thinking about getting myself a viking helmet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bush Turkey Posted July 2, 2011 oh what!!!!! Thats amazing! Im heading down there right now!!! The hunt is on Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
occidentalis Posted July 2, 2011 indeed looking forward to finally snaring myself some photographic opportunities with these guys Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naja naja Posted July 2, 2011 No I wouldn't, as spores can travel world wide. Who's to say it wasn't "meant" to happen in the sceme of evolution. I understand wat u r saying. I would be dead against most non native weeds. I just seem to find useful ones less intrusive. It is similar iIMO to spawning logs or cultivating any mushroom outside of it's home range. The risk is there, how do we know which fungi are natiove and which ones not? It;s one of those things I guess, but just a personal opinion. And I have dealt with nature conservation since I was born. It's is engrained into me. I just don't have the same bias towards any fungi as I do to plants and animals. I love making use of weeds, I treat them like wild food or medicine. It's kinda hard to imagine not being able to rub sum lambs ear on a mozzie bite. In a way, I have kinda learnt to love certain weed/non native species where they cause minimal damage. Look at the deliberate stocking of our lakes and river Australia wide with trout. Surely they would ccause more ecological damage. I don't want a debate, it's just my opinion and I would have been jst as happy had it not have happened either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bush Turkey Posted July 5, 2011 3rd? i know there was one in manjimup. Where was the 2nd sighting? its actually the 4th sighting. There have been 2 sightings in manjimup. one on private land and a group of 10 friutbodies found on public land Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
occidentalis Posted July 5, 2011 People would be more concerned if Amanitas weren't psychoactive. I just think it's sad when the drug content of plants leads to environmental impact, destruction, and/or thoughtlessness People ringing wattles and destroying the phlebs at Mt Buffalo are things that have happened when drugs are involved Im just saying the right and moral thing to do would be to: Alert the dept of conservation to the location of any Amanitas found. If you found another non-native and non-psychoactive fungus that wasn't found in WA that's what you would do right? I tend to agree however there is a big distinction here between weedy plants and weedy fungi: fungi travel much further and much faster than plants do because they have spores. It's very surprising that A. muscaria is not already more common in WA given that it is common on the east coast. I really don't think that much can be done to control it. While it is worthwhile notifying DEC from a scientific perspective, I don't think they will even try to do anything about it. I hope that no one on this forum would actively spread this species or other non-native and invasive species But at the same time I think the most parsimonious response to this one is to get out bush and enjoy taking some photos of these fungi. No point crying over spilt milk, particularly when there is no way to clean it up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bℓσωηG Posted July 15, 2011 (edited) ...Well a month on with the full moon i ventured for a look with my camera phone thinking id at least see one other newly emerged Amanita , but to my eye goggling surprise not far off in a section of bush i didnt search last time there were about 20 mature Amanitas with already upturned caps and surprisingly few spots some with no visible spots at all is this common? I was thinking maybe they came with the Tassie bluegums which are growing alongside the pines... do they resemble Tasmanian strains? I studied a quantity of peeled skin hmmm... interusting check the 5cent piece for size comparison no thats not a big spot its bird crap lol Edited July 15, 2011 by bℓσωηG Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
myco Posted July 15, 2011 wow thats amazing i would LOVE to get some photos of these guys i think its fairly common for older ones to lose thier spots Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bush Turkey Posted July 15, 2011 i think heavy rain washes away the warts. WOW though! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bush Turkey Posted June 4, 2012 (edited) Edited June 6, 2012 by Bush Turkey 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bush Turkey Posted June 4, 2012 i think there have been 7 finds now. One being right in Perth Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
myco Posted June 6, 2012 Nice one BT I must find one of these I want photos it's the most classic pictured mushroom I wanna see one hell bad haha Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sidewayschef Posted June 16, 2012 So i found these in the front garden were I put down alot of mushroom compost.(perth hills) Not 100% convinced the are A. Muscaria though as they are really small and the colouring has changed to yellow(after heavy rain though) Will be keenly keeping an eye on these though in the coming weeks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
myco Posted June 17, 2012 nice one hard to say but definately looks like it could possibly them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bush Turkey Posted June 17, 2012 i dont think it is a fly agaric. I think its the WA lookalike that starts with and X, cant remember the name at the moment Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
totemgoat Posted June 17, 2012 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanita_xanthocephala? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bush Turkey Posted June 17, 2012 cheers, thats the one i was thinking of. http://www.google.com.au/imgres?q=Amanita+xanthocephala&um=1&hl=en&sa=N&rls=com.microsoft:en-au:IE-SearchBox&rlz=1I7ADSA_enAU473&biw=1093&bih=395&tbm=isch&tbnid=hvnXWZo6aISiHM:&imgrefurl=http://www.amanitaceae.org/%3FAmanita%2Bxanthocephala&docid=VEcRCMZqs2AxRM&imgurl=http://www.amanitaceae.org/image/uploaded/p/pulchellus-Cke-Mass.jpg&w=420&h=429&ei=fNfdT6GTCaa6iQfiip2oCg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=828&vpy=54&dur=7016&hovh=227&hovw=222&tx=174&ty=117&sig=105766550672507802927&page=1&tbnh=94&tbnw=90&start=0&ndsp=16&ved=1t:429,r:7,s:0,i:93 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
myco Posted June 18, 2012 Ahh yes I remember seeing one of those locally yrs ago it was a yellow one Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mutant Posted June 18, 2012 the photo is not enough to tell. the right one looks like it, even though the ring cannot be seen. Could it be the edible red head A.crocea ? but the flakes tell muscaria... one photo + no description = not enough nice photo though ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hyphal Posted June 26, 2012 I found a patch of 6 or so last year, but I never posted the pics (lazy... ). Again, this year, they are in the same place - 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sidewayschef Posted July 10, 2012 i dont think it is a fly agaric. I think its the WA lookalike that starts with and X, cant remember the name at the moment yeah, think you are right there. They are tiny, no were near big enough Share this post Link to post Share on other sites