mutant Posted January 30, 2011 this looks like healthy myc this seems like it developed on the cardboard. at first I thought white myc turnt blue as I sprayed to wet the surface which had been drying up. But when looking closer, this is rather a contamination? What should I do?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
El Presidente Hillbillios Posted January 30, 2011 it looks like its the dreaded green mould, how big is the tub your growing in? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
El Presidente Hillbillios Posted January 30, 2011 Actually on a second look it may just be blue myce after some kinda stress. Do you have a close up pic? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Magicdirt Posted January 30, 2011 That's trich man - Mycologists enemy No1 I'd try to rescue the clean healthy myc and start a new box. It may not be possible to dig around the infected part though so you might have to pick it up with a plastic bag like you'd pick up dogshit ie put you hand in the bag and fold the bag down over the trich and scoop it up. If you disturb trich when it is sporulating you'll get billions of spores all over you and the area it's in. That looks like parts of the trich are mature so be very careful. Do it outside so you don't get spores everywhere and wash yourself and your clothes before handling the new clean woodchips. If it's possible try to keep it in a cool area as trich goes berserk in warm temps. Temps much higher than 27 or there abouts are great conditions for trich but it can strike at lower temps too. Treat it a bit like an agar culture and just keep removing clean bits and starting new cultures to isolate clean mycelium. I'd be trying to get a sample on agar too to preserve the culture and clean it up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Distracted Posted January 31, 2011 Definatgely trich. Unfortunately by the time they spore, their mycelium has already spread. Trich spreads extremely fast in it's ideal conditions. Remove a generous area around the spores, do it outside like MagicDirt suggested. The spores are very spikey and can and will stick to clothing which can then carry the spores and contaminate further projects. The bottom left of the first pic looks like trich, and in the second pic it's absolutely everywhere. It may be a good option to leave it outside, trich outside it's so rampant because it has to deal with it's own predators, also it's not a fan of free air exchange it prefers to grow in a rich carbon dioxide based atmosphere. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
omsource Posted January 31, 2011 I'd agree with moving it outside, when mycelium naturalises it develops pretty decent protection against aggressive contamination. I'd suggest accepting the contamination and starting an outdoor patch.. probably too contaminated to save it as clean culture without massive amounts of energy spent transferring it. Still it's usable substrate! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mutant Posted January 31, 2011 (edited) I hope you're wrong for the bottom left in the first picture cause I can't see anything. Also, this fucker seems to have mostly hit a remaining cardboard piece, and not much wood. The photo seems dramatic, but it's only in one spot. does this trich is also a fungus with a white mycelium? Tranfering it outside doesn't sound so bad as well as removing most of the contam and attempting an outdoor patch... but it's still pretty cold here ***** so much with my unsterilized lazy tek Edited January 31, 2011 by mutant Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
myco Posted February 1, 2011 I hope you're wrong for the bottom left in the first picture cause I can't see anything. Also, this fucker seems to have mostly hit a remaining cardboard piece, and not much wood. The photo seems dramatic, but it's only in one spot. does this trich is also a fungus with a white mycelium? Tranfering it outside doesn't sound so bad as well as removing most of the contam and attempting an outdoor patch... but it's still pretty cold here ***** so much with my unsterilized lazy tek i wouldnt worry to much man just stick it outside the mycelium looks pretty hardy in there so a lil bit of green mould wont do fuckall just get it out of the box leave the box outside for a while and it will be all good i've seen this stuff alot it grows quickly but also dies easily so you wont have much trouble getting rid of it if your attempting an outdoor patch it will be fine if your really worried you can always just get some of the good mycelium out and transfer it to some new chips good luck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Distracted Posted February 1, 2011 Trich grows rampant as a white fluffy myclemium. It spreads far and fast and just before it sporulates it reminds me of clumping icing sugar. By the time you see the green spores it's already spread a fair way, the trick is to catch it before it sporulates but only experience will help you determine if it's good or bas mycelium. Wood loving mycelium is very rhizomophic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mutant Posted February 1, 2011 i wouldnt worry to much man just stick it outside the mycelium looks pretty hardy in there so a lil bit of green mould wont do fuckall just get it out of the box leave the box outside for a while and it will be all good i've seen this stuff alot it grows quickly but also dies easily so you wont have much trouble getting rid of it if your attempting an outdoor patch it will be fine if your really worried you can always just get some of the good mycelium out and transfer it to some new chips good luck it's cold outside? maybe I should leave uncoveredfor a bit? I already cleaned it and poured some new chips on exposed myc. butwhat magicdirt al;arms me too, as what I took as psilo myc could be also trich can you describe a bit more the differences of myceliums? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
myco Posted February 2, 2011 it's cold outside? maybe I should leave uncoveredfor a bit? I already cleaned it and poured some new chips on exposed myc. butwhat magicdirt al;arms me too, as what I took as psilo myc could be also trich can you describe a bit more the differences of myceliums? well im no expert but wat i can see in your first pic looks to be the good stuff very rhizomorphic with all the stringy looking bits goin everywhere thats what you want Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hutch Posted February 2, 2011 I hope you're wrong for the bottom left in the first picture cause I can't see anything. Also, this fucker seems to have mostly hit a remaining cardboard piece, and not much wood. The photo seems dramatic, but it's only in one spot. does this trich is also a fungus with a white mycelium? Tranfering it outside doesn't sound so bad as well as removing most of the contam and attempting an outdoor patch... but it's still pretty cold here ***** so much with my unsterilized lazy tek It's ok mate! We let you make all the mistakes first cause its fun to read about them.....So the old "unsterilized lazy tek" can be scratched off my list Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mutant Posted February 3, 2011 (edited) lol yeah I like sharing too. Not many people post about failures or post photos during experiments this having been said, I did not fail yet! plus this fucker fruited on the paper, so that maybe meant I shouldn't leave that on the surface Edited February 3, 2011 by mutant Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tripsis Posted February 3, 2011 The mycelium in the first photo is mushroom mycelium, the mycelium in the second photo is mould mycelium. Often that specific green mould does not pose great problems if there is sufficient airflow. Woodshaving which have not been treated and are left in open air are likely to contaminate. Wood chips are less susceptible, though can still easily contaminate. Sufficient airflow is important. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mutant Posted February 6, 2011 (edited) none of the wood material where treated. actually they were taken from the woods, they were pretty fresh woodchips though I just uncovered it . I might leave for a day or two uncovered Edited February 6, 2011 by mutant Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
