apothecary Posted April 2, 2005 Hi all, some questions my Merck index doesn't cover. I notice that bufotenine is not soluble in naptha. However N-N,DMT is. My question: 1. Is 5-MEO-DMT soluble in naptha? 2. Is calcium hydroxide soluble in naptha? This is all theoretical, I forgot to order my lime paste from T and have no naptha If I were to soak a plant material, say A. colubrina or P. arundinacea in naptha, then remove the plant material and let the naptha evaporate, I'd probably be left with a residue that contained at least DMT (and 5-meo-dmt if it's soluble in naptha!) but less (or no) bad stuff! But it wouldn't be in freebase form. Which is a shame. So what if I were to freebase it beforehand? Crush plant material, mix 2:1 ratio plant material:lime, let it sit and freebase for a few days. Then soak the whole lot in naptha, remove plant material, decant lime, then let naptha evaporate? Would that result in a freebase residue possibly containing nothing but 5-MEO-DMT and DMT? If so, isn't that a much simpler extraction method than the acid/base? Would such a freebase need to be turned into a salt, or could it be smoked as is? If you see what I mean (and I'm not just a nutbag) it means you'd only need naptha, lime paste and plant material to get a freebase DMT/5-MEO-DMT smokable resin type deal. Rather than the a/b extraction which requires many more chemicals and would take much longer! Also, no bufotenine makes it into the extract, and if 5-MEO-DMT isn't naptha soluble, you could use this method to get pure N-N,DMT (although you'd need more plant material). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Torsten Posted April 2, 2005 dmt is really only suluble in hot naptha/shellite, but not in cold. it is used for recrystallising dmt this way. isn't bufotenine a little more polar and hence a little less soluble in natha? calcium hydroxide would not be soluble in naptha to any significant degree. and even if, it could be washed out wiht a single wash of water. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teonanacatl Posted April 2, 2005 free bases of most alkaloids are water soluble to some degree, but if you give them a choice between water and non polar solvent they will choose the non polar solvent. a friend of mine thinks a normal A/B extract would work well onn these seeds but might need nore nonpolar added then normal because seeds contain more fat. i think the yeild would be groovy. the merek index seems sweet where do i find it??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amulte Posted April 2, 2005 quote: isn't bufotenine a little more polar and hence a little less soluble in natha? i could be wrong, have been drinkning, but i think bufotenine is a the most polar of the non-polar solvents. im sure i wrote that right EDIT-yes, im sure of it. your right T [ 02. April 2005, 13:23: Message edited by: Amulte ] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teonanacatl Posted April 2, 2005 lol now it could be cos im not drunk but that doesnt make sense amulte, bufotenine a non polar solvent???? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
