Lagochilus inebrians snuff for sale

[Evil Genius]

I heard a lot about Lagochilus but never tried it. If you dont get an effect from a triple dose, just start highering it until you reach the point where you nose cant handle it anymore. Thats all you can do here. 100 kg is a little bit more than the typical man weighs and i assume thats why you need more to get an effect. But it´s also possible that you dont get any effects from it no matter how much you put in your nose. I hear that a lot with Kratom so i wouldnt be surprised if this applies here too. If it isnt working as snuff, you might also try to smoke it or prepare it as a tea. bye Eg

[Bread Filter]

I heard a lot about Lagochilus but never tried it. If you dont get an effect from a triple dose, just start highering it until you reach the point where you nose cant handle it anymore. Thats all you can do here. 100 kg is a little bit more than the typical man weighs and i assume thats why you need more to get an effect. But it´s also possible that you dont get any effects from it no matter how much you put in your nose. I hear that a lot with Kratom so i wouldnt be surprised if this applies here too. If it isnt working as snuff, you might also try to smoke it or prepare it as a tea. bye Eg

 

I am way past the point of how much my nose can handle. Now the back of my throat burns. I am definitely not insufflating anymore.

I'll try it tomorrow in the digital Volcano, I can't find any vape temps for Lagochilus though. I am hesitant to make a tea as that would use up all that is left.

[ref1ect1ons]

lmao, I have been following this unfolding comedy, thanks breadfilter!

[whisperz]

As I mentioned earlier, I said that I would try the snuff in a different manner... and I have done so...

This time I had 4 doses, each about half a matchhead in size spread about 3 minutes apart... each dose

gave me just a couple of sneezes each time... so it was much more suitable than my last attempt of one

big dose and 30 large sneezers, plus the effects...

About 5 minutes after the final dose, I noticed this time that I was more sedated than last time... the

euphoria is there but was milder... However, as time went on (it is now 30+ minutes since the final dose,

it became apparent that I'm quite sedated, almost heavily. Much like a low dose xanax tablet, maybe half

a milligram...

This is a quite interesting feeling...

I must vouch for Maurice's snuff... as I'm happy to experience these symptoms...

Bread Filter,... I'm sad to hear about the lack of the same experience... since its widely known to work,

and yes I vouch for it, then you must have a variable that's preventing it from working... ie: medication.

whisperz,...

PS: it is now 45 minutes and I'm still sedated... (I'm typing slowly as I'm sedated remember)...

[Evil Genius]

I think the melting point for Lagochilin is 151-152 degree celsius. But im not sure if thats correct though. Just try it out till you find the point where it almost burns. bye Eg

[Bread Filter]

Bread Filter,... I'm sad to hear about the lack of the same experience... since its widely known to work,

and yes I vouch for it, then you must have a variable that's preventing it from working... ie: medication.

 

No meds here. Must be something else. I'm sad that it doesn't work for me too

[Bread Filter]

I think the melting point for Lagochilin is 151-152 degree celsius. But im not sure if thats correct though. Just try it out till you find the point where it almost burns. bye Eg

 

Thanks for that, I couldn't find it anywhere. I will report back tomorrow with my findings.

[sapito]

bread filter, i think you have done a great job of delivering your experience without being accusatory or offensive in anyway. its good to have this knowledge and it helps other decide what to expect.

whisperz, dont you think you have gone a bit over the top assuming that bread has done no research and consumes meth simply because he doesnt get the effect that you get? IMO this substance is pretty uncommon so these reports are just as valuable as positive reports. im not sure if this is as common as you say, erowid has a whopping 7 reports

its pretty hard to make things clear without people incriminating themselves, but I think what substances people commonly use does change how they experience subtle substance. the other side is that not everyone experiences things the same and knowing peoples different experiences help to create a more standard dosage

[whisperz]

bread filter, i think you have done a great job of delivering your experience without being accusatory or offensive in anyway. its good to have this knowledge and it helps other decide what to expect.

whisperz, dont you think you have gone a bit over the top assuming that bread has done no research and consumes meth simply because he doesnt get the effect that you get?

 

Ok,... now where did I say I 'assumed' no research?... or 'consumed' meth ? ... I merely asked a question,

trying to figure out where his problem variable is... you have assumed that I had stated it as so...

Also, alkaloids are called alkaloids because they enact an effect upon a person, regardless of who they

are.... if no effect happens to the person, then it is the person who has a variable that prevents it from

being noticeable... so trying to knuckle down the problem variable is merely what I was doing...

whisperz,...

PS: after 2 hours of being practically heaviliy sedated last night from the doses, I had an almost harsh

comedown for a few hours afterwards,... my term harsh meaning, I felt drained...

Edited June 7, 2010 by whisperz

[Maurice]

For everyone's edification check this out-

Synonyms:

Inebriating Mint, Intoxicating Mint, Lips Of Rabbit, Turkmenistan Mint or menta del Turkistan.

Family: Labiatae

BOTANICAL REFERENCES:

Subspecific taxa: Lagochilus cabulicus Benth, Lagochilus bunge ex Benth, Lagochilus ser. Brevidentati Knorr, Lagochilus ser. Diacanthophylli Knorr, Lagochilus ser. Inaequidentati Knorr, Lagochilus sect. Inermes Fisch. & C.A. Mey., Lagochilus ser. Kschtuenses Knorr, Lagochilus ser. Macrodonti Knorr, Lagochilus sect. Spinosi Fisch. & C.A. Mey.

Known Hazards: None known

Range: E. Europe to C. Asia. The Dry mountain slopes from Georgia, Armenia, Turkistan, Uzbekistan upto Afghanistan.

Habitat: Steppes.

TREATISE:

Lagochilus inebrians/cabulicus benth Bunge (An intriguing psychoactive member of the Labiatae family) Lagochilus inebrians/cabulicus benth a member of the mint family Labiatae, native to the dry steppes from Georgia, Armenia in Eastern Europe, upto to Turkistan, Iran and Afghanistan in central Asia.There are over 30 species of Lagochilus. For centuries, the Tajik, Tartar, Turkmen and Uzbek tribesmen have used this interesting narcotic intoxicant, gathering the leaves usually in late July – early August.A tea of the toasted leaves, occasionally mixed with stems, fruiting tops and the white or pink flowers, is prepared, with honey or sugar to lessen the intensely bitter taste of the plant. The aromatic fragrance is said to increase on drying and storage.Phytochemical studies have shown the presence of a crystalline compound called Lagochiline - a diterpene of the grindelian type. This compound thought at first to be an alkaloid was isolated in 1945, but more studies, in 1957, showed that it was a polyhydric alcohol, present up to 3 % of the dried plant material.

The versatile pharmacological effects of Lagochilus inebrians/cabulicus benth have led to its being adopted officially in the 8th edition of the Russian Pharmacopoeia. It is employed as an infusion or tincture as an antihemorrhagic for its haemostatic effects, to reduce permeability of blood vessels and aid in coagulation of the blood.

It has also been recommended for use in treating certain allergies, glaucoma, and skin diseases, and has been reported to be valuable for nervous disorders as a hypotensive, anti-spasmodic and sedative. Its properties as a sedative, are due possibly to the same constituents responsible for the central nervous activity, basic to the folk use of the plant as a narcotic.

Physical Characteristics

A obviously very stemmy, deciduous shrub growing unto 1m. The flowers are hermaphrodite (have both male and female organs).

The plant prefers light (sandy) and medium (loamy) soils and requires well-drained soil. The plant prefers acid, neutral and basic (alkaline) soils. It cannot grow in the shade. It requires dry or moist soil and can tolerate drought.

Whole Plant description:

Prickly, almost spherical, polybush grows up to 1m height, families of Laminaceae Lindi. Leaves are opposite, wild, three, five-separate, with numerous fibrils and glands. Cups are bell-shaped, nimbus are pink. Flowers are pink collected on the tops of the stalks in inflorescences. The plant blossoms in June-August. The herb should be harvested sometime in late July, early August and then dried, as the aromatic fragrance and medicinal properties are said to increase on drying. Do not let the plant dry naturally in autumn, for all naturally occurring chemicals, are lost at the same time and the herb instead of tasting bitter, tastes only woody! In autumn, even when the main plant has dried and died, you will notice the root is full of fluid and quite alive. It is not uncommon at all to find the previous year’s dried and dead plant still attached to the root and lying by the side. It is rather surprising to find such few specimens locally, when one takes into account the number of seeds each plant produces. It is obvious the plant over produces seeds, due to the harsh environment in which it makes its natural habitat. The root is usually found deep within rocky soil, from which it is next to impossible to extract.

Leaves contain lagochiline (C24H44O6) substance consisted of four-nuclear spirit. Leaves contain also radio oil - 0.03 %, tannins-11-14 %, sugar, ascorbic acid, carotid; in stalks - tannins 6.8 %, sugar, carotin; in roots- tannins and sugar.

Raw materials have a strong aromatic odour, bitter to taste.

The great bulk of raw material is consumed in the form of a tea. Moisture content is no more than 13 %, ashes residue is no more than 11 %, other bodies of the plant no more than 3 %, small particles which are filtered through a sieve with a maximum size of 1?? apertures - no more than 2 %, organic impurity no more than 1 % and mineral impurity no more than 1 %.

Morphological Differences Between Georgian & Armenian and Turkmen Lagochilus inebrians/cabulicus benth subspecific taxa.

Subspecies (ssp.) are commonly used to recognize the existence of regional variants of a species; that is some degree of morphological differentiation (not as great as that between species) accompanies geographic (or ecological, or temporal) separation from other subspecies. Like all flora and fauna, the same species, has some slight specific differences in morphology, within it’s natural habitat; being found from Georgia in the Caucasian mountain range to Afghanistan in Central Asia.

REF: Textbook of Phytotherapy 11 Edition – L.V.Harutunian & R.K.Hovhanissian – Chapter 307 – Page 394.)

All phytochemical constituents and pharmacological actions, remain identical.

REF: 1) Pharmaceutical Biology (Formerly International Journal of Pharmacognosy) Publisher: Taylor & Francis

Issue: Volume 35, Number 1 / January 1997

These morphological differences are given below:

1)Georgian and Armenian Lagochilus Inebrians usually, has around 10 of the typical hexagonal calyces/flowers at each node on the stem per node, the Central Asian type has typically around 4.

2) Armenia Lagochilus inebrians/cabulicus benth stem is also possibly somewhat more hairy than the Turkmen type.

Edible Uses

Tea.

Dried leaves and flowers are boiled with sugar and honey to make a tea. Sometimes mixed with stems, fruits or toasted leaves. Honey and sugar are often added to reduce their bitterness. Drying and storage increase their aromatic fragrance. Usage: 5 grams per person.

Medicinal Uses

Antispasmodic; Haemostatic; Hallucinogenic; Hypotensive; Sedative; Uterine tonic.

The branches are antispasmodic, haemostatic, hallucinogenic, hypotensive and sedative. Infusion is used internally in the treatment of allergies and the shrub has been used to treat skin disorders.

The branches are harvested in the autumn after flowering and are dried for later use. They become more fragrant and medicinally active once they have been dried.

Entheogenic/Psychological Properties

Lagochilus inebrians/cabulicus benth has been used since ancient times, for its intoxicating and sedative properties by Armenian, Tajik, Tatar, Turkoman and Uzbek tribesman and Shamans. It has also been used for it’s other medical, therapeutic effects in controlling hemorrhage, Anti-epileptic and anti-infective effects etc. A crystalline compound isolated from the plant and named lagochiline and thought at first to be an alkaloid was isolated in 1945 but more recent studies, in 1957, showed that it was a polyhydric alcohol, present up to 3 % of the dried plant material, has proved to be aditerpene. Maximum quantities of lagochilinus accumulate in plants is in the phase of flowering and during fruit production (May- July). Whether or not it produces the psychoactive effects of the whole plant is unknown. The versatile pharmacological effects of Lagochilus inebrians/cabulicus benth, have led to its being adopted officially in the 8th edition of the Russian Pharmacopoeia. It is employed as an infusion or tincture as an antihemorrhagic for its hemostatic effects, to reduce permeability of blood vessels and aid in coagulation of the blood. It has also been recommended for use in treating certain allergies, glaucoma, and skin diseases, and has been reported to be valuable for nervous disorders as a hypotensive, anti-spasmodic and sedative. Its properties as a sedative are due possibly to the same constituents responsible for the central nervous activity basic to the folk use of the plant as a narcotic. A tea of the toasted leaves, occasionally mixed with stems, fruiting tops and the white flowers, is prepared, with honey or sugar to lessen the intensely bitter taste of the plant. The aromatic fragrance is said to increase on drying and storage. Advised dosage is 5 gms only.

Despite the name "inebrians," it seems that it is more of a sedative than an inebriant. The plant has hypotensive properties (i.e. it lowers blood pressure). This makes it useful for various medical conditions and procedures, but it also means that it could be dangerous for people with hypotension.

Many pharmacological properties are ascribed to this plant. Effects like: reduces tension or anxiety, sedative, intoxicant and mild hallucinogenic are often reported.

List of chemicals

Chemical Part Low ppm Hi ppm

CALCIUM-SALTS Plant 20000 27000

EO Plant 300 2000

IRON-SALTS Plant 1300 4000

LAGOCHILINE Plant 10000 30000

LAGOCHILINE-3-ACETATE Plant 10000 30000

LAGOCHILIN-TETRAACETATE Plant 7000 30000

ORGANIC-ACIDS Plant 30000 90000

RESIN Plant 2000

STACHYDRINE-ACETATE Plant 10000 27000

SUGAR Plant 20000 40000

TANNIN Plant

VIT-K Plant

References; Duke 1992 A

Pharmacological properties

Extracts and tinctures made of flowers and leaves accelerate blood coagulation. They have also sedative effect. In an experiment the Lagochilus preparation strengthen processes of internal neural braking and relieve a state of neurosis. A preparation of Lagochilus gives a strong excitation and state of well being. It renders antiepileptic action if used after strychnine, caffeine, corazole and camphor injections. It increases gastric secretions and increases digestive power. Lagochilus tincture has marked spasmolitic action when induced with carbochiline. Preliminary administration of Lagochilus tincture prevents spastic reduction of intestines caused by carbocholine.

Studies on Lagochilus tinctures/infusion has proven to be beneficial in countering Anaphylactic shock and prevents the recurrence of anaphylaxis shock, when administered for the second time

Activities

The number in () indicates how many separate chemicals this species has for that activity, for example, Analgesic (3) indicates this species has three separate chemicals that have Analgesic activity.

NB:1,2 or 3 does not necessarily indicate the potency of the chemical involved.

Psychotropic (1)

Sedative (1)

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Antimutagenic (1)

Antinephritic (1)

Antiophidic (1)

Antioxidant (1)

Antiradicular (1)

Antirenitic (1)

Antitumor (1)

Antitumor-Promoter (1)

Antiulcer (1)

Antiviral (1)

Cancer-Preventive (1)

Carcinogenic (1)

Chelator (1)

Cyclooxygenase-Inhibitor (1)

Glucosyl-Transferase-Inhibitor (1)

Hepatoprotective (1)

Immunosuppressant (1)

Lipoxygenase-Inhibitor (1)

MAO-Inhibitor (1)

Ornithine-Decarboxylase-Inhibitor (1)

Pesticide (1)

Xanthine-Oxidase-Inhibitor (1)

Cite as USDA, ARS, National Genetic Resources Program. Phytochemical and Ethnobotanical Databases. [Online Database] National Germplasm Resources Laboratory, Beltsville, Maryland. 30 August 2004.

Further Ethnobotanical research should be carried out as a basis for more critical and extensive phytochemical and pharmacological studies which the plant merit!.

Experiments

Extracts and tinctures of Lagochilus have been tested in Samarqand Medical Institute on 170 patients. The preparation has been experimented for its sedative effects on functional disturbances of nervous system, and found the effect of treatment has been considered good - 53 % patients, satisfactory- 27% and weak-10 %, no effect - 0% patients.

As a sedative Lagochilus was tried in psychiatric clinics on 50 patients with neurotic conditions, organic diseases of the central nervous system, epilepsy and other diseases (By DR A Z. Rosenberg).

Preparations of Lagochilus give good results in the treatment functional diseases and consequences of organic diseases of the central nervous system. Sedative effect of the preparation as a result gives dream improvement, reduces effective excitability,

Good results in treating eczema. With the dosage of Lagochilus infusion (1:20) 1 tablespoon 3 times a day for 45-60days.Lagochilus preparations have been used on patients with hypertension. It was observed Patients general health state improved. Reduced Vertigo, headache and dizziness, work capability increased. With 30-60days of treatment with Lagochilus. The maximum arterial pressure was normalized in 40 % patients; minimal effect was on 32 % of patients. By the end of Treatment majority of patients with arterial blood pressure second stage has gone down to first stage. The most effective haemostatic activity appeared in various bleedings: uterus, haemorrhoidal, nasal (epistaxis), lung, and for hemorrhagic diathesis.

Clinical efficiency of the extract and tinctures in various bleedings the following data was observed, study on 300 patients accepting this preparation, good effect has been seen in 193 (64 %), satisfactory - in 58 (19 %), weak – in 29 (10 %), no effect in 20 (7 %) patients.

Special Data on clinical efficiency of this preparation in hemorrhagic diathesis and hemophilia. have been proven by The tests which have been carried out in Leningrad institute of hemotransfusy and in the Central institute of hematology and blood transfusion. Though these data were formulated, from experiments, on a small amount of patients, they are worthy, taking into consideration the difficulties arising with treating patients with these disease.

Conclusion from experiments and clinical studies, this preparation can be recommended in uterine, haemorrhoidal, traumatic, lung and nasal bleedings, and treatment hemorrhagic diathesis, hemophilia, Werlholf diseases, Henoch Shcholein disorder, functional nervous disturbances, some allergic skin disease like pruritis, dermatitis, eczema, skinrash, Urticaria, neurodermatitis, Hypertension 1 - 2 stages, glaucoma and for prevention of post operative bleeding .

Methods of Preparation (Preparation of Extract)

Traditionally to treat such ailments, 10gm of dried plant material are ground up and added to 200ml of boiling water for about 10 minutes. It is then allowed to cool at room temperature and strained. One to two tablespoons of the liquid are drunk 3 to 5 times daily.

Extract of Lagochilus are prepared from leaves (some literatures claim the whole plant is medically active) of plant in the ratio 1:10 or 1:20. Crush Leaves into small pieces, and add to water (room temperature) in a container, then place this container in boiling water for 15 minutes ,keep on stirring the content, and cool for 45 minutes at room temperature. Usually this extract can be used as sedative, for adults in dosage of 1 tablespoon 3-6 times a day. Dosage depends on disease condition. In chronic bleedings and for prevention for post operative (gynecologic operations) 2 tablespoon of extract 3-5 times a day. In case of hemorrhagic diathesis, it is recommended to give high doses, about 50ml of extract 3-5 times a day. Extract can also be used for external application. Moisten gauze napkins with this extract and place it on bleeding part for the period of 2-5 minutes.

Lagochilus Tincture:

It is prepared from Lagochilus leaves with 70 % spirit. 1 teaspoon 3 times a day. For arresting bleedings 1-2 teaspoons of tincture in 1/4 glass of water 2 hourly. When bleeding is reduced, dosage of tincture is reduced and it is used for 3 times a day. In a bleeding diathesis, the dose is teaspoons 5 times in day.

Cultivation details

We have very little information on this species and do not know if it will be hardy in Britain, The US and Europe, though it experiences very cold winters in its native range and so should be completely cold-hardy. The main problem it is likely to face is with cool damp weather. It comes from a sunny and fairly arid region of the world, with a continental climate and so it is likely to require a very sunny position, in a well-drained dry rocky soil.

Cultivation

Seeds should be lightly covered in a well drained soil, soil should be kept moist until plant sprouts and takes hold. Likes full sun. Be careful when putting it outside if you live in the area, it may spread.

Propagation

Seed - Prick out the seedlings when they are large enough to handle and grow them on in the greenhouse for at least their first winter. Plant them out in late spring or early summer and consider giving them some protection from winter rain. I think it would be a good idea if the seedlings could be planted on the slopes of a rockery, as that is exactly it’s natural environment.

The contents of lagochiline in raw material should be not less than 0.5 %. Keep in a dry place.

Lagochilus inebrians/cabulicus benth

Legal Status

INTERNATIONAL LAW

Central Asia

Lagochilus inebrians/cabulicus benth is an endangered species in Central Asia. While it is not listed as endangered by the Conventional on International Trade in Endangered Species of Wild Flora and Fauna (CITES), countries in the region do list is as endangered in their own laws. Therefore, while it may not be considered an illegal substance in the United States, it is illegal to harvest the plant from the wild in Central Asia. However, seeds there can be collected from the wild and grown locally.

[Citation: "Lagochilus inebrians (Bunge)" in Red Data Book of Uzbek SSR: Rare and Endangered Species of Animals and Plants: Volume II ("Plants"); pp 41-42. "Fan" Publishing House of the Uzbek SSR, Tashkent, Uzbekistan, 1984.]

References:

1) Hakaopov E A. Published research book on experimental studies; effect of Lagochilus on cardiovascular system 1953; no 6, second edition 1955, pharmacology and pharmacotherapy of Lagochilus.

2) Hakaopov E A experimental studies Mechanism of haemostatic effect of Lagochilus 1954.

3) Hakaopov E A experimental studies anti convulsive effect of Lagochilus infusion 1954.

4) L.V harutyunian & R.K Hovanisian phytotherapy 1994, second edition 1998 no.307s

5) Infusions and tinctures of the green matter from Lagochilus inebrians Bge. are described as having pharmacological activity exhibited by hemostatic and sedative properties of a general nature that are in part attributed to the spiro ether-containing labdane, lagochiline, which as been isolated from the plant. However, details regarding the preparations and the diterpene itself are not available: (a) Abramov, M.M.; Yaparova, S.A. J. Appl. Chem., USSR 1963, 36, 2471. ( Chizhov, O.S.; Kessenikh, A.V.; Yakolev, I.P.; Zolatorev, B.M.; Petukhov, V.A. Tetrahedron Lett. 1969, 1361.

6) Ken Fern

Notes from observations, tasting etc at Plants for a Future and on field trips.

7)Emboden. W. Narcotic Plants Studio Vista 1979 ISBN 0-289-70864-8

A lot of details about the history, chemistry and use of narcotic plants, including hallucinogens, stimulants, inebriants and hypnotics.

8) James A Duke:"Handbook of Medicinal Herbs", Lagochilus Inebrians Bunge. Translation Russian news / http:// www .golkom.ru/Emboden. W. Narcotic Plants Studio Vista

9) U.S. Department of Commerce. Business Information Service for the Newly Independent States (BISNIS), Country Report. Washington, DC: U.S. Department of Commerce; 1999.

10) WIIW Handbook of Statistics: Countries in Transition 1999. Vienna, Austria: The Vienna Institute for International Economic Studies; 1999.

11) Prokoudin YN, editor. Field Guide to Higher Plants of Ukraine (in Ukrainian). Naukova Dumka: Kiev, 1987.

12) Mosyakin SL, Fedoronchuk MM. Vascular plants of Ukraina (in Ukrainian). Kiev: Naukova Dumka; 1999.

13) Tsarenko PM, Palamar'-Mordvintseva GM, Vasser SP. Diversity of Ukrainian algae (preliminary data). Algologiya (in Russian) 1998; 8:227-41.

14) Stetsenko M. Nature reserve business is a priority of national nature preservation policy. Motherland Nature (in Ukrainian) 1998, Issues 1-3:10-13.

15) Types of Medicinal Products. U.S. Embassy in Georgia, December 1998.

16)Takhtadzhian AL, editor. Life of Plants (in Russian). Vol. 5, parts 1 and 2. Moscow: Prosveshenije; 1981.

17) Mamchour FI. Plants Heal (in Ukrainian). Kiev: Znanija; 1971.

18)Zinchenko TV, Stakhiv IV, Miakushka TY, Kaloshina NA, Nikonov GK Medicinal Plants in Gastroenterology (BV Zavirukha, editor, in Russian). Kiev: Naukova Dumka; 1990.

19)Pavlenko LO. Healing Products of Earth. 2nd ed. (in Ukrainian). Kiev: Naukova Dumka; 1988.

20)Rabinovich AM. Medicinal Plants in the Backyard (in Russian). Moscow: Rosagropromizdat; 1989.

21) Nosal’ MA, Nosal' IM. Medicinal Plants and Methods of Their Ethnic Applications (in Ukrainian). Kiev: State Medical Publishing House; 1958.

22) Doudchenko LG, Krivenko VV. Edible Plants-Healers. 2nd ed. (in Russian). Naukova Dumka: Kiev, 1988.

[sapito]

yeah fair call whisperz, i interpreted your posts a little bit off. appologies

im not familiar with the chemistry of alkaloids but even they all effect people the same with a substance such as this maybe dosage standards are still being worked out? "Lagochilus inebrians trichomes" doesnt bring up many hits.

[PhoenixSon]

can vouch for the product, certainly cleans out the nasal passage. no hangover effect for me tho.

usually not a fan of snorting but i like this, cheers

[gelidoartist123]

This is the real deal.

organically grown here,

this is not ground herb,

but the pure trichomes.

Very fragrant, very smooth and potent.

Offering is $50/gm.

(1 gm goes a long way! )

 

hey i would just like 1 gram cheers

[Bread Filter]

Ok my brand new digital Volcano is preheated at 151 degrees celsius and I am about to christen it with Lagochilus. I'll report back.

[Bread Filter]

The first bag at 151 degrees stayed clear and didn't produce any colour, slight taste of what has been in my nose all weekend.

I tried a second bag at 175 degrees and got some colour plus breathed out a little bit of noticeable smoke/vapour. Definitely tasted the stuff this time.

Tried a third bag at 200 degrees and got a darker bag than the second but the same level of taste.

I think it is worth concluding that unfortunately this substance has no noticeable effects on me except for the sneezing

I'll leave it at that as I don't really feel like shelving this stuff.

Edited June 7, 2010 by Bread Filter

[PhoenixSon]

 

I dont think it would end nicely

[Bread Filter]

I dont think it would end nicely

 

You must be thinking what I'm thinking but was afraid to write; if it has the same effect on my back door as it does on my nose then I'm in big trouble

[santiago]

aaaaaaahhhhh poooooooooo

[planthelper]

i must say i like lago a lot, and found the homegrown stuff better than the imports.

there are a few people who say lago doesn't do a thing for them, and they used strong materials...

hey, breadfilter that put's your score up to 3 plants which don't work for you....

[Maurice]

hey i would just like 1 gram cheers

 

PM me

[Bread Filter]

hey, breadfilter that put's your score up to 3 plants which don't work for you....

 

I know. I have been trying to work out why they don't work.

Can Glandular fever or a similar condition possibly be the contributing factor why these 3 distinct plants don't have any noticeable effects on someone?

[whisperz]

Bread Filter,...

Apparently, my mate has dosed himself with quite large doses and well,.... he has had no

apparent reaction as well (aside from a few sneezes of course)... It makes me wonder if

there is a problem variable concerning diet ??... or even a previous history of heavy drug

use ??... or maybe the receptors in the brain were burnt out ??... chucklez',... I dunno

really,... it is a conundrum...

As for myself, I've had another dose and I continue to have very good and prolonged effects,

though I must admit the comedown/hangover is a bit of a drain...

whisperz,...