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[teonanacatl]

just wondering wat peoples experiences were with the bark. also wat bit of the bark is used, eg inner bark, and how much is needed??? really curious to try this :D

[Thelema]

as far as i know a 'standard dose', or even an incredibly "active" dose has not yet been found. the only way we can know this is from PNG researchers. or research it ourselves carefully!

I used perhaps 3cmx3cmx0.5cm bark for my first sample, the first thin layer of bark was scraped off, as it had lichen material on it.

My feeling is that at least 3 times this amount will start to yield dramatic results.

[teonanacatl]

ive been reading about Himbacine which they extracted from the bark and it exhibited strong, selective binding to muscarinic receptors of the M2 subtype. same ones that amanita muscaria binds with???? see link here

http://rsc.anu.edu.au/AnnualReport/Current...t/sherburn.html

[Fractalhead]

I'm hoping to conduct a HPLC based isolation of himbacine (and co.) in the next 12 months or so for some serious bioassays. Retails for some ridiculous price from Sigma.

[Floyd]

are there any seed collection floating around?

[Rev]

none viable.

might be come april/may

if somebody knows where living plants are

[Agamemnon]

You know this is a really important issue. This is an extremely important tree that needs to be scientifically explored in all its facets. The fact that it occurs naturally in Australia although rarely, means its continued existence must be firmly guarded and promoted. Are there any government bodies that can be enlisted for this purpose?(or does the christian right strangle even this form of enquiry??) :confused:

[Rev]

Under current circumstances

i would argue that the best protection given would be seed collection by committed individuals and sharing of propagation successes and failures internally alongside release of plants within our community to those who can continue this research

but also

these plants should be incorporated into local revegetation schemes in their natural range at the grass roots level

far below the radar of govt officials

pretty much the same as all our native plants like Phlebos and pituri

plant first publicise later

Their in the magnolia family. There has to be a massive body of specialist knowledge out there on modes of propagating this family by many means

[ 26. December 2004, 20:29: Message edited by: reville ]