2012

[woof woof woof]

actually those pics are super cool...... makes you realize that we CAN live soooo much cheaper and probably still get in a good meal every day.

2012 is a probably a consciousness threshold were we as humans will go through massively.

look at what oil is doing, and what foods doing... all going up worldwide... enviromental challenges... also affecting us all. so yeah.... people around the world are feeling the same things as....

reading allot on budhism these days..... abook called.... "living in the face of death" good read... is about the culture of tibet *buddhism* and how the see and deal with death. kinda like another of my favourite authors books "carlos castaneda'

anyway folks .... life is prescious.... develop yourselves spiritually (as most of you here are surely doing already) then your life is not wasted!

big hug and lots of drugs.... :-) your pal,..... woof wooof woof!

[woof woof woof]

i dont think that this was posted here or not............ but this sheds some more light on 2012

http://alignment2012.com/whatisGA.htm actually better said .. fkkn detailed explanation.... so some mathimatical astronomy geek dude crunched the numbers for us!

oohhh btw...... we missed the precise moment for celebrating....lol.... 2012 will be the ""better late then never"" cycle completion party hehehe

[2b]

Back to those pics of a weeks food. It seems that the people spending less on there food are actually still getting a good feed , it just seems that their food has cut out the middle man and the companies. By spending more it doesn't seem that they are getting more, granted there is some excess . It would be an interesting exercise to have all those goods from those who spend less purchased from a retail chain super market here in the west and see how much it would cost then.

[JDanger]

Maybe the internet will collapse in 2012. Then we'll all have to go out and get real jobs. Freaky.

Otherwise, I'd be happy with a simple yet complete collapse of the world economy. It will probably suck, but at least everyone who makes money just by handling money will have to step back and reevaluate their lives. Hell, we might even be forced to stop spending money on useless shit, like drug law enforcement.

Peace,

[woof woof woof]

world economy collapse......... unlikely...... but it sure looks very likely that the road ahead will be bumpy.....

[woof woof woof]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7hRnSLlq7k...feature=related

total destruction..... we're faked! ;)

[Chiral]

OKAY..time to bump this thread seeing as how we are heading into the second last phase in 2009..come on lets get this one open for debate and discussion again..

here's some links to make you sweat, bitch, moan or just plain enjoy and agree about it all..

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=BeE-3BBqG58

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=YomEEicpxcc&...feature=related

http://www.mayasunserpent.com/preparing.htm

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=V5MS5Odp2qQ

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=fipnhz5myB4&...feature=related

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=V8MXwQXKW_w

Edited December 1, 2008 by Hunab Ku

[rahli]

2012 Underground Resistant Movement

Looks like the right wing christians have hijacked the 2012 movement to unseat the half blood prince.

[cycle]

@Hunab

Love that attached image! Whose art is that please?

Edited December 4, 2008 by cycle

[Chiral]

@Hunab

Love that attached image! Whose art is that please?

Isn't it cool....its my Avatar at the Nook..artist is a Japanese Psychedelic artist..I'll find the name for you when I get a chance.

soooo cute...and trippy as fuck.

H.

[the germinator]

Wow, the 2012 Underground resistant movement are like a photo negative of the KKK! What the...

[ThunderIdeal]

yeah find that artist's name for us, cheers.

woof, i remember posting that link at oztrance, and the resident astronomer/skeptic said that it doesn't make sense. i think. well, i think he was saying that the sun rising through the galactic centre doesn't make sense.

[Chiral]

One of the best and most informative 2012 sites I have encountered

The date December 21st, 2012 A.D. (13.0.0.0.0 in the Long Count), represents an extremely close conjunction of the Winter Solstice Sun with the crossing point of the Galactic Equator (Equator of the Milky Way) and the Ecliptic (path of the Sun), what that ancient Maya recognized as the Sacred Tree. This is an event that has been coming to

resonance very slowly over thousands and thousands of years. It will come to resolution at exactly 11:11 am GMT.

The Tzolkin is a 260-day calendar based around the period of human gestation. It is composed of 20 day-signs, each of which has 13 variations, and was (and still is) used to determine character traits and time harmonics, in a similar way to Western astrology. The Maya also used a 365-day calendar called the Haab, and a Venus calendar, plus others. They measured long time periods by means of a Long Count, in which one 360-day year (a "Tun"), consists of 18 x 20-day "months" ("Uinals"). Twenty of these Tuns is a Katun; 20 Katuns is a Baktun (nearly 400 years); and 13 Baktuns adds up to a "Great Cycle" of 1,872,000 days, ( 5200 Tuns, or about 5125 years).

Mayan scholars have been attempting to correlate the Long Count with our Western Gregorian calendar, since the beginning of this century. There has been massive variation in the suggested correlations, but as early as 1905, Goodman suggested a correlation only 3 days from the most popular one today. Known as the GMT correlation, or "correlation # 584283", this was finalized in 1950, and puts the start of the Great Cycle ( day 0.0.0.0.0) on 11th August 3114 BC, and the end-date (known as 13.0.0.0.0.) as 21st December 2012.

Jose Arguelles has pointed out that the Tzolkin is a harmonic of the Great Cycle, and can be used to map history, as if it is measuring not individual gestation but species gestation, since 5 Great Cycles add to exactly 26,000 Tuns; the "Grand Year" or precession of the equinoxes - a higher harmonic of 260.

NOTE: The astronomer Philip Plait has stated very clearly that the Mayan calendar does not end in 2012 at all, that it is like the odometer on your car, as each section of the odometer reaches 9 and then clicks over to 0, the next number to it starts a new cycle, so that when all the numbers again reach 0 all the way across the odometer - the last number will change from 1 to 2 and the new cycle starts all over again.

THE MAYAN CALENDAR AND THE UNIVERSAL TIME CYCLE

See: Mayan Database

Sunspot Cycles; Adrian Gilbert and Maurice Cotterell, in their book the Mayan Prophecies, say that the end of the Great Cycle is the culmination of a series of long-term sunspot cycles which will flip the sun’s magnetic field, causing earthquakes and flooding on earth. Moreover, the changing magnetic field will alter the endocrine production of the pineal gland. John Major Jenkins has pointed out that the detailed graphs of the cycles do not actually show significant termination points at the end of the Great Cycle; click here for Jenkins' full unabridged review of The Mayan Prophecies.

According to John Major Jenkins, it will take 36 years to precess through the Galactic equator. The Galactic Alignment "zone" is

1998 +/- 18 years = 1980 to 2016. This is "era 2012"

[so why are we worried?]

2007 = 2012 - proof?

Generally speaking, scientifically accepted records of sunspot activity do seem to be heading for a climax in the near future.

From: http://www.diagnosis2012.co.uk/

Note: Real science is predicting the next/current sun cycle to be the worst in 50 years. The first two sunspot's of 2006 are moving in reverse direction.

August 15, 2006: On July 31st, a tiny sunspot was born. It popped up from the sun's interior, floated around a bit, and vanished again in a few hours. On the sun this sort of thing happens all the time and, ordinarily, it wouldn't be worth mentioning. But this sunspot was special: It was backward.

"We've been waiting for this," says David Hathaway, a solar physicist at the Marshall Space Flight in Huntsville, Alabama. "A backward sunspot is a sign that the next solar cycle is beginning."

Right: The tiny, backward sunspot of July 31, 2006. Credit: SOHO. [Larger image]

"Backward" means magnetically backward. Hathaway explains:

Sunspots are planet-sized magnets created by the sun's inner magnetic dynamo. Like all magnets in the Universe, sunspots have north (N) and south (S) magnetic poles. The sunspot of July 31st popped up at solar longitude 65o W, latitude 13o S. Sunspots in that area are normally oriented N-S. The newcomer, however, was S-N, opposite the norm.

This tiny spot of backwardness matters because of what it might foretell: A really big solar cycle.

Solar activity rises and falls in 11-year cycles, swinging back and forth between times of quiet and storminess. Right now the sun is quiet. "We're near the end of Solar Cycle 23, which peaked way back in 2001," explains Hathaway. The next cycle, Solar Cycle 24, should begin "any time now," returning the sun to a stormy state.

Satellite operators and NASA mission planners are bracing for this next solar cycle because it is expected to be exceptionally stormy, perhaps the stormiest in decades. Sunspots and solar flares will return in abundance, producing bright auroras on Earth and dangerous proton storms in space: full story.

Solar Cycles: Past and FutureBut when will Solar Cycle 24 begin?

"Maybe it already did--on July 31st," says Hathaway. The first spot of a new solar cycle is always backwards. Solar physicists have long known that sunspot magnetic fields reverse polarity from cycle to cycle. N-S becomes S-N and vice versa. "The backward sunspot may be the first sunspot of Cycle 24."

It sounds exciting, but Hathaway is cautious on several fronts:

First, the sunspot lasted only three hours. Typically, sunspots last days, weeks or even months. Three hours is fleeting in the extreme. "It came and went so fast, it was not given an official sunspot number," says Hathaway. The astronomers who number sunspots didn't think it worthy!

Second, the latitude of the spot is suspicious. New-cycle sunspots almost always pop up at mid-latitudes, around 30o N or 30o S. The backward sunspot popped up at 13o S. "That's strange."

These odd-isms stop Hathaway short of declaring the onset of a new solar cycle. "But it looks promising," he says.

Even if Cycle 24 has truly begun, "don't expect any great storms right away." Solar cycles last 11 years and take time to build up to fever pitch. For a while, perhaps one or two years, Cycle 23 and Cycle 24 will actually share the sun, making it a hodgepodge of backward and forward spots. Eventually, Cycle 24 will take over completely; then the fireworks will really begin.

Meanwhile, Hathaway plans to keep an eye out for more backward sunspots.

FROM:http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2006/15aug_backwards.htm

The place where the December solstice sun crosses the Milky Way

is precisely the location of the "dark-rift in the Milky Way

...'xibalba be' - the road to the underworld."

On the winter solstice of 2012, the noonday Sun exactly conjuncts

the crossing point of the sun's ecliptic with the galactic plane,

while also closely conjuncting the exact the center of the galaxy.

Dresden codex: On page 74, there is an + and X cross in the sky band as well

as the 8 pointed cross.

The zodiac cross rotates during the precession of the equinoxes against the backdrop of the Galactic Cross with one revolution in 26.000 years (length of a Great Year or Platonic Year). The Galactic Cross rotates with one revolution in 220 million years (time of the revolution of the Solar System around the Galactic Centre). That’s why the Galactic Cross is regarded as a fixated cross during a precession cycle, its rotation can be neglected.

The two crosses (Zodiac Cross and Galactic Cross) form an eight pointed cross and four times during a precession cycle they overlap. The moments of conjunction are called a Great Celestial Conjunction (for details see our paper ‘Crucifying the Earth on the Galactic Cross’ - Smeykavov, Wicherink 2006). It’s the cosmic event that is associated with John Major Jenkins Galactic Alignment. The next one is occurring right now during era-2012 on the winter and summer solstices

The eight pointed cross becoming a four pointed cross during a

Great Celestial Conjunction. The blue cross represents the Earth Cross

while the red cross represents the Galactic Cross. Qs(blue circle) represents plane of the Solar System and the ecliptic, Es( green circle) represents the plane of the Galaxy.

The points Z and Z’ in the picture above are the intersections of the ecliptic with the Galactic Plane and these crossings have been associated by Schele with the Maya Sacred Tree, they are the Gemini-Taurus (Z’) nexus and Sagittarius-Scorpio (Z) nexus. As we will demonstrate later in the Maya artefacts these points are often depicted as two separate crosses XX. We add to Schele’s observations that the Maya Sacred Tree is also identical to the red cross in the picture above, the intersection of the Galactic Plane with the Solar System’s plane and it’s perpendicular axis to this intersection. This cross is the cross that occurs in the Fejérváry-Mayer Codex with the Sacred Tree symbols on it

The Galactic Cross and the Maya Sacred Tree therefore are interchangeable concepts!

We have found abundant X, XX and 8 pointed crosses in the Maya artefacts and in all cases they are associated with the Maya Sacred Tree! These examples express the idea of a rotating zodiac cross against the backdrop of a Galactic Cross. The occurrence of these crosses in the Maya artefacts and their association with the Maya Sacred Tree in their astronomical context can be explained by the Earth Cross and the Galactic Cross as proposed in this article.

Earth Cross

One could argue that the Maya couldn’t possibly have understood that the Zodiac’s equinox and solstice axis form a cross and that this cross rotates along the ecliptic during a precession cycle. We have named this cross in our paper ‘Crucifying the Earth on the Galactic Cross’ the Earth Cross.

The crosses under the armpits of the Maize God depicted at the Lower Temple of the Jaguars at Chichen Itza represent the crossing places of the ecliptic and the Milky Way (as we will demonstrate later). But there is one very remarkable detail about this picture. Left and right of the face in the centre we see two crosses, one vertical aligned, and one slanted. They suggest the rotational movement of the four pointed cross (the Zodiac Cross).

FROM: http://www.soulsofdistortion.nl/great%20ce...%20crosses.html

H.

Edited July 2, 2009 by Hunab Ku

[.:Shadow:.]

I personally think it's a load of bull !

But after getting really into ufos/aliens/gov conspiracy's & spending at least a year reading up on countless number of sites about this 2012 shit i really don't know now :S

The Mayans ( think that's how its spelled ) have been pretty much dead right the last 5 cycles & have either coincidentally predicted some far-out stuff or have either somehow had knowledge of the future. . .

( Not like saying " theres going to be a war very soon " as anyone can do that but have got it specifically down to what,when,how ect )

Now with all the technology, natural disasters, government stopping buildings (& that's just the tip of the iceberg) I'm pretty sure this has crossed there minds but still not sure on how there dealing with it.

I personally don't see how this all can happen in 3years but i am expecting something big to happen pretty soon ;)

Then again in the last few years we have seen 2 big earthquakes & bigass tsunami & some dramatic change in temperature !

( I've bookmarked this page so keep up the good work & keep the thread alive )

Edited July 4, 2009 by .:Shadow:.