i know this is naughty, but.....

[Green Osiris]

how do you like your eggs?

LOL, unfertilised thanks.

the bulk of this thread doesn't suggest an element of misogyny. there are a number of threads smattered throughout the forums that do, though. instead of wasting time pointing them all out to you if you like i can let you know each time something comes up that smacks of it. the most recent i can come up with was the spaceship with the 'no fat chicks' commentary in the first post. that's surreal to me.

So why bring it up in this thread ? because hardtimes is a woman ? Hardly an open invitation to start venting. And as for the 'no fat chick' comments, whilst I disagree (I LIKE cuddly women), Im sure just as many women would joke about the grossness of a fat/thin/bald/hairy guy. Its just human nature, we are judgemental.

as a woman in a primarily male environment (this or any other) it's the commentary that is anti-woman that really stands out to me, making me state this is a 'misogynistic wonderland' because, primarily, they are left to their devices and nobody (least of all me) will bother to bring it up to "them".

Other environments aren't primarily male at all. Society is the biggest environment of them all, and isn't the split more in favour of females ? And should I moan because at the gym I go to there is a class for 'women only' - there's no classes for 'men only' there. The manager is a woman, so I should think of this as 'a mister-soginyst' action, eh ?

[nil]

LOL, unfertilised thanks.

So why bring it up in this thread ? because hardtimes is a woman ? Hardly an open invitation to start venting.

damn. and i was on a roll.

And as for the 'no fat chick' comments, whilst I disagree (I LIKE cuddly women), Im sure just as many women would joke about the grossness of a fat/thin/bald/hairy guy. Its just human nature, we are judgemental.

i've never seen a bumper sticker 'no bald guys' or 'no skinny blokes'. i mean, come on....

Other environments aren't primarily male at all. Society is the biggest environment of them all, and isn't the split more in favour of females ? And should I moan because at the gym I go to there is a class for 'women only' - there's no classes for 'men only' there. The manager is a woman, so I should think of this as 'a mister-soginyst' action, eh ?

i don't have a problem being in a primarily male environment. i actually tend to have "more in common" with men as a total generalisation because i don't like to pretty myself up and would rather just be one of the blokes, but maybe the token asexual bloke. i don't have a problem that this is a primarily male environment. i don't have a problem with secret men's business or secret women's business. i do have a problem with people who go to gyms, but if you want a men's only class because you're tired of being ogled by all those women, i'd suggest bringing that up with the management. i know that's a common complaint amongst the male populace.

equanimity for all!

should i start posting pics of 'hot guys' up in here so the women can drool over the male form? or should i just admit now that i've never been attracted to physical structure and have always found the intellect and spiritual being the real turn on? maybe the bee in my bonnet is i tend to expect that of a humanity attempting to evolve and when i don't see it i get sad. maybe when i get sad, rather than behaving 'like a woman' i come off agro and crass, instead.

maybe i bring up things at the wrong time in the wrong place. maybe i need more coffee. maybe i need less coffee. maybe i need some khat.

[nil]

Edited January 27, 2007 by evolutionNth

[Green Osiris]

i do have a problem with people who go to gyms, but if you want a men's only class because you're tired of being ogled by all those women, i'd suggest bringing that up with the management. i know that's a common complaint amongst the male populace.

You have a problem with people trying to maintain a level of fitness ? WTF ?

And this 'women's only' class has nothing to to with a chance for women to attend witout being ogled - its in a room where three of the walls are top-to-bottom glass ! Its a damn female hatecrime against us poor defenceless guys is what it is.

Er, that was tongue in cheek.

[sobriquet]

Certain accusatory cards are easy to play... the misogynist card, the anti-semitic card, the homophobe card. While it's important to defend against hatred I think those who play the accusatory cards are actually themselves haters and self haters.

Word --- Old (Real) Meaning --- New (Fabricated) Meaning

Misogynist --- someone who hates women --- a label placed on someone women want to hate.

Antisemitic --- someone who hates Jews --- a label placed on someone Jews want to hate.

Homophobe --- someone who hates homosexuals --- a label placed on someone gays hate.

So hatred is close to home for the players of these cards.

[nil]

Certain accusatory cards are easy to play... the misogynist card, the anti-semitic card, the homophobe card. While it's important to defend against hatred I think those who play the accusatory cards are actually themselves haters and self haters.

Word --- Old (Real) Meaning --- New (Fabricated) Meaning

Misogynist --- someone who hates women --- a label placed on someone women want to hate.

Antisemitic --- someone who hates Jews --- a label placed on someone Jews want to hate.

Homophobe --- someone who hates homosexuals --- a label placed on someone gays hate.

So hatred is close to home for the players of these cards.

ah, going for the easy out. not surprising. no better way to avoid looking at yourself and the issues you might have. no worries.

this whole post of yours is passive-aggressive bs. i'm not a hate or a 'self-hater'. "i think those who play the accusatory cards are actually themselves haters and self-haters?" is that an accusatory card?

[sobriquet]

i've never seen a bumper sticker 'no bald guys' or 'no skinny blokes'. i mean, come on....

Now a smart person would be keeping that to themselves. That sort of idea is foie-gras for the wallet! Imagine how fat it could become!

[nil]

Now a smart person would be keeping that to themselves. That sort of idea is foie-gras for the wallet! Imagine how fat it could become!

well we all know i'm not that smart. foie-gras is disgusting, you are welcome to all the foie-gras (however that's actually spelled) (spelt?).

btw: misogyny is termed by most feminist theories as a political ideology—similar to racism or anti-Semitism—that justifies and maintains the subordination of women by men. wiki-ped-antics

and i'm not a feminist. not really. but yes i am. but no. i antagonise myself.

[Torsten]

should i start posting pics of 'hot guys' up in here so the women can drool over the male form?

Now who is being inconsiderate and presumptive? I've been waiting for some hot guy pics here for ages, but all we got was the bear pool party in another thread yesterday . I am sure there are a few guys here who will drool over the male form. So post away.

I agree with you that this thread is misogynist. But not for what you think. This thread sucks. Like blackdragon said, it is not what we are about. But what I did find interesting was that as soon as hardtimes mentioned she was a girl everyone suddnely changed towards her. Now, if all some silly and reckless noob has to do is to wave her boobs about and all the boys fall over themselves to suddenly help her, then THAT is misogyny.

Bottom line is that hardtimes doesn't give a shit about the people on this forum, the implications of her post, or the long term consequences of her actions. All she cares about is an immediate fix. And while poppy seeds are pretty much legal, I would view such an 'urgent' request for any other legal inebriant in the same dim light. But then again I never had much patience for people who lack patience...... and self control.

[Amulte]

so yall just gonna keep hyjacking or start a new thread LOL

seriously, too many people here love an argument to the point that they will put words into each others mouth so it continues. this whole gender things gets blow out of proportion every time it comes up. and NOTHING ever comes from it. yes a discussion is a word exchange, but it accually reaches a conclusion unlike this whole gender debate. and some will even say it has come to conclusion, tho both parties will disagree on the conclusion.

quit running in circles this thread should be in chillspace or philosophy as all ethnobotany has been washed off much like the poppies seeds will be. tho the tounge in check stuff is good lol, still this is the wrong place for it.

on a side note, i have to agree with evolutionNth. i mean honestly yeah i love seeing girls and anysort for that matter, but this is not a fucking porn site LOL i dont come here to see hot chickys or jiggling titties (no matter how mezmerising i find them)

i was probably foolishly hopeful that people here would be more for the furtherment in evolution of the human mind as a whole, i mean fuck were online, one of the whole joys about the internet communications is that visual interpritations are lost and things are basied shearly on whats said or being said as opposed to what gender, race or religion they fall into. embrace your ambiguity and anonymity while online, save the rest for meetings in person where those things accually come into play.

now to the thread again, there was never a direct implication that the thread seeder was planning on ingesting poppie seed tea. everyone made an assumption to the wording know what they themselves have heard or do with poppie seed. i mean for all anyone here knew the statement...

"I am looking to find a top supply of pap som poppy seeds, with which to make a daily treat. asap. all i wish to do is shake it up, preferably once a week, and ergo, have a comforting supply."

....could have been in reference to ones favored baked good containing poppie seed as a LEGAL food product. by jumping up and claiming illegality you incriminate yourself by assuming your intent is that of the posters. yes we all know the seeders intent NOW. and it was a rather plausable assumption, to make esspecially with the seeders protrayed guilt over the matter. but reguardless put your egos aside, stop trying to make a name for yourself and do somthing positive. your either a part of the problem or part of the solution, try being part of the solution. i mean i love INTELIGENT discussion and SOME of this thread has been just that.

but yes, that boat for the sexisim discussion has a major leak in it so DONt PADDLE THAT BOAT! YOULL DROWN LOL

I love metaphores.

[sobriquet]

It might be hard to link this post to the rest of the thread without some explanation, but since the thread has become a holding place for all sorts of brain farts I'll just add this picture that came up in a search for "No Fat Chicks" signs which I couldn't believe ACTUALLY EXIST. There's at least two things that have blown me away in as many days - first that bear pool party Torsten mentioned above, and now this...

Man o man, I must be naive.

So here's the pic...

I don't quite know why she is posing the way she is, but it made me remember the old joke about women wanting something hot, powerful and throbbing between their legs going and buying a Honda motorbike.

Well I think this lady might actually have the bike on idle, and that smile developing on her face is somewhat telling ;)

[nil]

Now who is being inconsiderate and presumptive? I've been waiting for some hot guy pics here for ages, but all we got was the bear pool party in another thread yesterday . I am sure there are a few guys here who will drool over the male form. So post away.

gawl it's just so difficult to be sexually all-emcompassing as an asexual! accept my sincerest apologies!

[Amulte]

But what I did find interesting was that as soon as hardtimes mentioned she was a girl everyone suddnely changed towards her.

im glad you pointed that out as it raises a good point. but also shows how some people here read posts, HT made it evidently CLEAR she is female in the very 1st post. now i really dont think that people here didnt know what the 'ms hardtimes' accually ment, in sure they just didnt notice.

as ive said before, yes it could have been approached/worded totally differently and none of this would have happened. i was going to request this thread be killed but i think it serves as example of what could happen if one isnt careful with the wording of their post.

[Evil Genius]

Ok,i know this feature has been a little bit overused during the last weeks but i think it´s time to try some male puppies in order to make some positive vibrations and sexual justice. But This is the first and the last time i´m posting hot guys, don´t get used to it too much. I´m just starting to miss the usual pics of sexy flowers....

[sobriquet]

Ok,i know this feature has been a little bit overused during the last weeks but i think it´s time to try some male puppies in order to make some positive vibrations and sexual justice. But This is the first and the last time i´m posting hot guys, don´t get used to it too much. I´m just starting to miss the usual pics of sexy flowers....

Wow it's great that George Clooney has a new pet. His 19 year old beloved pet Vietnamese potbellied pig "Max" that was his bed partner died recently (December 2006) and went to the animal afterlife.

One of George Clooney’s most important family members passed away on Friday. The Hollywood actor is reportedly mourning his beloved bed-partner, Max.

The news was confirmed by the actor’s publicist, Stan Rosenfield. “Max, like any pet, became a member of the family,” Rosenfield said. “He was a big pig, as pigs go. I can’t tell you how much he weighed.

Max, who weighted approximately 300lb, was Clooney’s pet over the last 18 years. The two were so close they even shared the same bed. "Usually, he sleeps on the foot of my bed, but he's gotten so fat in the last year," Clooney told 60 Minutes last February.

Max died peacefully on Friday of “natural causes” but he was suffering with arthritis and partly blind. The animal lived a nice long life in pig years and according to Richard Slayton from pigs4ever.com, "I can tell you any pig that lives over the age of 12, the owner knows what he's doing and is taking care of it. Obviously, Mr. Clooney did a very good job, and probably loved that pig very much."

The actor was away promoting his most recent movie, “The Good German.”

"He just died, like an hour ago," Clooney told USA Today. "He was as old a pig as the vets had ever seen. I was really surprised, because he’s been a big part of my life."

The pig can now rest in peace knowing that his owner has no plans of replacing him with another pet. "I think Max covered all my pig needs," Clooney said.

He added, "It's been a bad year for my pets. I had a bulldog that died this year too. It's strange how animals become a...part of your family. They really become a big issue with you."

Max became Clooney’s pet while he was living with actress Kelly Preston and when the pair split, he asked for the pig. Since, the world’s sexiest man shared his home and things with the pig accompanied Clooney on film sets.

He even credited the pig with saving his life by waking him up before an earthquake. He said: "About three minutes before, Max woke me up and kept nudging me, like he was trying to warn me. That's how smart he is."

The actor joked he had enjoyed "the longest relationship of my life" with the animal.

The porker frequently made cameos in interviews, mostly because visitors had to step over the huge animal before entering Clooney's house. "Max, the star," Clooney says, a bit wistfully.

Earlier this year Clooney took the pig for a flight in John Travolta's private jet, declaring afterwards that Max "absolutely loved it".

In 2001 Max made headlines by getting seriously injured after a friend of the ‘Syriana’ Oscar winner ran him over in the dark. But he survived for another five years.

"When we first saw Max, he was a cute little Vietnamese potbellied pig," Clooney's father, newsman Nick Clooney, wrote in the Cincinnati Post last January. "Those who fostered the adoption neglected to tell George that Max would one day be the size of a linebacker with an appetite to match."

Edited January 27, 2007 by sobriquet

[Chemakazi]

what was the topic of discussion in this thread about again?

[dqd]

This forum is eating itself and I don't want to see it die

[Green Osiris]

Yes, let's get back to at least some lilnk to poppy seeds. Anyone used the Hoyts brand? That what is in my local coles.

[transDiMenTional]

im eating myself and i dont want to see the pig die.

hello dqd and happy birthday evil genius

Edited January 27, 2007 by transDiMenTional

[Evil Genius]

Thanks transDiMenTional! i´ve just opened up the Red Red wine. Hope your having a nice time too! bye Eg

[Torsten]

I think it's very common for useless threads to degenerate like this. I think a higher frequency of such degenerating threads only indicates a higher frequency of initially useless threads . I can't see how that hurts the forums much cos the number of good threads is still by far in the majority and only those who like to indulge in these pointlessly clever discussions actually bother reading them. I mean, if you don't like this discussion then what are you still doing here on page 3 .

What was the topic again? I don't think I cared for the original topic much and actually found the ensuing chest beating [is that what you call it when girls do it?] much more entertaining

[Evil Genius]

Yeah, i´m sure we have enough deep informations inside to handle a few spammed up threads like this one. Btw, that´s exactly the same hair cut i had a few years ago. The Girls loved it but i changed it as i didn´t wanted to be seen just like a sex object anymore....

bye

[SirLSD]

green osiris. recently tried 1.5kg of hoyts brand seeds with batch numer ending in 33 and it had zero effect. so one could assume that all seed for sale in oz is only good for baking and this whole urban myth is just that, a myth.

[Green Osiris]

Thanks for that experience report. i went shopping a while ago and in light of this thread though 'what the hell' and bought a 240g jar of Hoyts. Dunno if there's even a batch number on here, there is a stamp on the side of the lid that says "03556".

I probably wont try this out today (cooking muffins that is) as I have to be in the right frame of mind before i start on any journey. Perhaps next weekend I'll be clumsy and spill half a bottle of wine into the jars contents and let steep for a few hours.

It *does* sound, on the surface, to be a myth, but surely the responses from other forum users would beg to differ. And doesnt it make sense that there's a possibility at least for there to be some residue coating unless the manufactureres have pre-washed them?

[Torsten]

myth? what gave you that idea? it certainly works. however, the australian produced ones might be no good at all.