devance Posted December 21, 2002 Taken from the book "Medicinal Plants of Native America" Comptonia peregrina (L.) Coult. Sweet Fern; Myricaceae Micmac Drug (Stimulant) Berries, bark and leaves used as an "exhilarant" and beverage. Chandler, R. Frank, Lois Freeman and Shirley N. Hooper 1979 Herbal Remedies of the Maritime Indians. Journal of Ethnopharmacology 1:49-68 (56) Fraxinus pennsylvanica Marsh. Ash; Oleaceae Algonquin, Tete-de-Boule Drug (Stimulant) Infusion of inner bark taken for fatigue and depression. Raymond, Marcel. 1945 Notes Ethnobotaniques Sur Les Tete-De-Boule De Manouan. Contributions de l'Institut botanique l'Universite de Montreal 55:113-134 (128) Liriodendron tulipifera L. Poplar; Magnoliaceae Rappahannock Drug (Love Medicine) Raw, green bark chewed as stimulant and sex invigorant. Speck, Frank G., R.B. Hassrick and E.S. Carpenter 1942 Rappahannock Herbals, Folk-Lore and Science of Cures. Proceedings of the Delaware County Institute of Science 10:7-55. (25) Myrica cerifera L. Bayberry; Myricaceae Micmac Drug (Stimulant) Berries, bark and leaves used as an exhilarant and beverage. Chandler, R. Frank, Lois Freeman and Shirley N. Hooper 1979 Herbal Remedies of the Maritime Indians. Journal of Ethnopharmacology 1:49-68 (58) Macromeria viridiflora DC. ; Boraginaceae Hopi Drug (Anticonvulsive) Dried plant and mullein smoked for "fits," craziness and witchcraft. Whiting, Alfred F. 1939 Ethnobotany of the Hopi. Museum of Northern Arizona Bulletin #15 (33 Thamnosma montana Torr. & Frem. Turpentine Broom; Rutaceae Kawaiisu Drug (Hallucinogen) Infusion of plant taken by medicine men "to go crazy like coyotes." Zigmond, Maurice L. 1981 Kawaiisu Ethnobotany. Salt Lake City. University of Utah Press (67) Arctostaphylos alpina (L.) Spreng. ; Ericaceae Ojibwa Drug (Narcotic) Leaves smoked to cause intoxication. Reagan, Albert B. 1928 Plants Used by the Bois Fort Chippewa (Ojibwa) Indians of Minnesota. Wisconsin Archeologist 7(4):230-248 (238 Arctostaphylos uva-ursi (L.) Spreng. Bearberry; Ericaceae Kwakiutl Drug (Narcotic) Leaves smoked as a narcotic. Turner, Nancy Chapman and Marcus A. M. Bell 1973 The Ethnobotany of the Southern Kwakiutl Indians of British Columbia. Economic Botany 27:257-310 (282) Berlandiera lyrata Benth. ; Asteraceae Keres, Western Drug (Psychological Aid) Dried roots burned, ground & tossed on hot coals or smoke inhaled for nervousness & to give courage. Swank, George R. 1932 The Ethnobotany of the Acoma and Laguna Indians. University of New Mexico, M.A. Thesis (33) Lomatium dissectum (Nutt.) Mathias & Constance ; Apiaceae Paiute, Northern Other (Smoke Plant) Roots smoked for pleasure. Fowler, Catherine S. 1989 Willards Z. Park's Ethnographic Notes on the Northern Paiute of Western Nevada 1933-1940. Salt Lake City. University of Utah Press (129 Cardamine concatenata (Michx.) Sw. Pepper Root; Brassicaceae Iroquois Other (Ceremonial Items) Plant used for divination. Herrick, James William 1977 Iroquois Medical Botany. State University of New York, Albany, PhD Thesis (340) Ribes americanum P. Mill. Wild Black Currant; Grossulariaceae Iroquois Drug (Other) Compound decoction of bark taken for fortune telling or divination. Herrick, James William 1977 Iroquois Medical Botany. State University of New York, Albany, PhD Thesis Ribes rotundifolium Michx. Eastern Wild Gooseberry; Grossulariaceae Iroquois Drug (Other) Compound decoction of bark taken for fortune telling or divination. Herrick, James William 1977 Iroquois Medical Botany. State University of New York, Albany, PhD Thesis (345) Magnolia glauca Laurel; Magnoliaceae Rappahannock Drug (Hallucinogen) Leaves or bark placed in cupped hands, over nose and inhaled as "mild dope." Speck, Frank G., R.B. Hassrick and E.S. Carpenter 1942 Rappahannock Herbals, Folk-Lore and Science of Cures. Proceedings of the Delaware County Institute of Science 10:7-55. (28) Geum triflorum var. ciliatum (Pursh) Fassett Prairie Smoke; Rosaceae Chippewa Drug (Stimulant) Dried root chewed as strong stimulant before feats of endurance. Densmore, Frances 1928 Uses of Plants by the Chippewa Indians. SI-BAE Annual Report #44:273-379 Acorus calamus L. Flag Root; Acoraceae Cree, Alberta Drug (Hallucinogen) Root chewed for the hallucinogenic effects. Smith, G. Warren 1973 Arctic Pharmacognosia. Arctic 26:324-333 (331) Cornus sericea ssp. sericea Kinnikinnick; Cornaceae Gosiute Drug (Narcotic) Plant used for the similar effect to opium. Chamberlin, Ralph V. 1911 The Ethno-Botany of the Gosiute Indians of Utah. Memoirs of the American Anthropological Association 2(5):331-405. (366) Mirabilis multiflora (Torr.) Gray Four O' Clock; Nyctaginaceae Hopi Drug (Hallucinogen) Root chewed by medicine man to induce visions while making a diagnosis. Colton, Harold S. 1974 Hopi History And Ethnobotany. IN D. A. Horr (ed.) Hopi Indians. Garland: New York. (334) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sascacheuan Posted December 22, 2002 Thamnosma montana could be very interesting plant and It may be pretty hardy to heat and frost. Distribution map:http://www.ibiblio.org/SWSBM/Maps/Thamnosma_montana.gif Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doklikit Posted December 22, 2002 Thanks Deviance. With respect to the 'chroming' post I find this far more interesting! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doklikit Posted December 22, 2002 Whoops. "Devance". That's a fraudian slip if ever there was one.! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Auxin Posted December 22, 2002 Good info, but devance- could you do something for me? In your profile where it says 'Sacramento,California,U.S.A.' could you change that to 'Sacramento, California, U.S.A.' (notice the spaces) that way it wont scrunch over the message column when you post something. Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest reville Posted December 23, 2002 Nice post! I was beggining to worry we were running out of plants to investigate Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gwydion Posted December 23, 2002 "I was beggining to worry we were running out of plants to investigate" You gotta be dreamin`, Sunny Jim! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
t st tantra Posted December 26, 2002 i think ultimately weight of numbers of interesting plants may be one of the most important factors in our area of endeavor,this is one of my highest priorities. thanx for a very useful post. as my knowledge grows i am amazed at the plant options that constantly surround me,and wish something like the caapi spirit was there to advise me,or even better that i could talk to the plants and they could tell me whats on offer! t s t . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
devance Posted December 26, 2002 Originally posted by t st tantra:i think ultimately weight of numbers of interesting plants may be one of the most important factors in our area of endeavor,this is one of my highest priorities. thanx for a very useful post. as my knowledge grows i am amazed at the plant options that constantly surround me,and wish something like the caapi spirit was there to advise me,or even better that i could talk to the plants and they could tell me whats on offer! t s t . Know what you mean. As one plant is illegalized some must other plants arise from obscurity like a tidal force confounding the illegalists. I know nothing of any of these plants except calamus. Be nice if a certain feature attracted ones attention to a plant such as its flower. The Berlandiera lyrata has a flower that smells of chocolate. Be nice if smoking the flower and the root was good for a chocolate smelling experience, but who knows. Seeds of such and plants are easy to come by. Plants in your local area that are very closely related to a plant on any list that interests you deserves a look too as the plant chemistry would be similar. Might find a more potent local brother plant without the hassle of raising a plant that has it origins halfway across the world from seed. Your local nursery has many a ethnogenic plant, some foreign, if one only knew what they were. The secret of a plant is where the desirable alkaloids are located which usually in one of the following: the leaves, the inner live bark [as with some trees and is a very unexplored area because of the hassle involved] or the roots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yeti101 Posted December 27, 2002 Awsome post Devance. Will start looking for local relatives immediately. Mental picture: Australian politicians inundated with so many new ethnogens that they are forced to either step aside for people who can cope, or join the ranks of hippies assaling them. [This message has been edited by Yeti101 (edited 27 December 2002).] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yeti101 Posted December 27, 2002 Found these just now: Liriodendron tulipifera (tree) at: http://www.treefarm.com.au/Liriodendron_tu...ulipifera_x.htm Mirabilis (multiflora?),seeds of some kind of Mirabilis at: http://www.riverhouse.com.au/coplants/cottage.html [This message has been edited by Yeti101 (edited 27 December 2002).] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
devance Posted December 28, 2002 Originally posted by Yeti101:Awsome post Devance. Will start looking for local relatives immediately. Mental picture: Australian politicians inundated with so many new ethnogens that they are forced to either step aside for people who can cope, or join the ranks of hippies assaling them. Fine idea! When you look for native related plants look for those that live in the same habitat as the nonnative. Swampy,dry, mountain,etc. The preditor pressures would be the same and the plant would produce similar alkaloids in the same place to deter the similar preditors. Just as a example For small plants the roots are protected from insects, moles For medium sized plants the leaves from grazers For trees the inner root bark from beetles Also the plant alkaloids can always be concentrated or unpleasant components removed when you have a native entheogen which can grow well in your location and produce alot of biomass. Maybe a plant can be found whose alkaloids could deter the Australian politician taxation preditor or at least confuse such so that it wanders away to suck on something else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest reville Posted December 29, 2002 Try Cyanogenic glycosides I totally agree with your methodology Devance Similar habitats with similar taxa do seem to create similar biochem. For example the Zygophyllaceae including Rue and Tribulus sp. seem to have plenty of Beta carbolines. So do the Acacias and related groups as well as tryptamines. And the cactus are just loaded with goodies There are several Zygophyllaceous plants in australia that inhabit similar environments to Rue and the exotic species Zygophyllum Nitraria Tribulus I also believe there is a plant, the Indian water chestnut - Trapa natans that is in this group = alkaloids? The movement of Harmala alkaloids between roots and aerial parts seasonally is also characteristic of this group. If you find these plants try scarping off the stem and rootbark and have a sniff and smear some juice on your hand and see what kind of stain it leaves, then taste it. You should be able to detect alkaloids if they are in usable amounts and probably smell them or see a yellowish or brownish taint Capi, Tribulus and rue all have a distinctive and similar tang and odour in the potent bits. Even if you dont detect them they may still be there Another group worthy of investigation are the Elms and Trema (ulmaceae) which have harmala alkaloids in Stem bark and fruits http://django.harvard.edu/users/jjarvie/It...mscan/Trema.htm Also Eleagnus species. and doesnt the ecological similarity between the arid cacti (lophs, pelecyphora etc..) and the mesmbs like Lithops invite further investigation GC/MS! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
t st tantra Posted January 1, 2003 i have native eleagnus trifolia comming up at the moment if anyone is interested.have access to other sp too. any more info on these plants? t s t . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yeti101 Posted March 25, 2003 I have recently moved, and have either mirabilis multiflora, or Mirabilis jalapa (they seem to look really similar, but I can't get a photo of M.multiflora to check.) growing in mty yard. Any more info on specifics of how this plant was used and in what amount etc? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
t st tantra Posted March 26, 2003 i'm fairly certain jalapa is the one with magenta flowers,go out at night with a torch,amazing.there are other species as well,dicotoma for instance,and they may cross with each other. search this forum for my experience from absorbing root juices ,when preparing root for drying. t s t . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites