ID please, possible Panaeolus foenisecii??

[naja naja]

 

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Found in long tuft of grass, in a inhabited cow paddock.

Edited August 26, 2006 by naja naja

[occidentalis]

Yes very possible. I found a similar shroom from similar habitat and posted it a year or so back but I can't find the post now. That was my tentative ID at the time also.

When my computer gets back from repairs I'll post it again.

[Eikel]

Doesn't look like Foenisecii to me...

(http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=10236)

The mushroom in the pic looks like a Panaeolus Antillarum... black spore-print yeah?

(http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=10186&view=findpost&p=90102)

-- Eik.

[spiders]

it comes down to the spore print colour.

[naja naja]

Print is black.

So does that make it Pan foe or Pan ant?

[PD.]

Pan. ant. has a black print and Pan. foe. has a dark brown almost black print.

All the Pan. ant. i have seen around here only fruits from dung.

It could be Pan. campanulatus.

[Eikel]

Print is black.

So does that make it Pan foe or Pan ant?

Based on a black print, I'd be willing to eat the shroom I'm so sure it's Ant... unfortunately though, they don't taste great and do absolutely nothing interesting to your mind. ;)

[spiders]

Yeah the easiest way to identify foenisecii is the brownish to brownish/black spore print which is unusual for pans.

[naja naja]

I was just stoked that I even guessed the right Genus. I was pretty sure it was a Pan, and it just gives me hope that I have found suitable naturlization sites for other species.

[Mycot]

Pan foenisecii have a very smoothly shaped hemispherical cap so the mushroom depicted is not P. foenisecii. It does appear to be a paneolus species however, the cap shape reminds me of that of Paneolus subbalteatus.

[Mycot]

Looking closely at the cap texture I have some doubts of it actually being P.subbalteatus.

I wonder if the species you have there are active.

[ENtiTY]

Thats definatly not Subb. There is no band on the cap. I've seen pics of mottled Subb's but there is no mottling either.

[Kenny Blister]

The Panaeoloideae of Australia

It's a pdf of a journal article almost 20 years old, not sure if there's anything recent. Might help. Interesting read anyway.

[Vertmorpheus]

Panaeolina foeniscii

Cap: up to 2cm, campanulate to convex, smooth, dark brown when wet but drying to a clay colour, flesh thin.

Stem: to 5cm long, slender, fragile, equal, hollow,paler than cap.

Gills: adnate and often notched near stem, broad, pale brown at first becoming mottled as the spores ripen and finally sooty brown with white edges.

Spores: Dark brown to almost black in print, warted, with a germ pore,ellisoidal to lemon shaped, 11-15 x 6.9 um

Smell n taste: None,

Distrib: grows singly or in groups in grassy places, act, nsw, vic, sa, wa

I reckon its an aged one o them, or a Panaeolus ovatus from somewhere with a bit of wind exposure, seems to make them flatten? Looks a bit too domed capwise for a pan ant of that "vintage" most I've seen are a lil more "pointed" at the apex, but they're nothing if not variable little creatures.

I don't bother trying to ID anything aged personally.. too easy to miss what was glaringly obvious on the day before you found it.

Happy huntin

GD