Happy Cadaver Posted February 22, 2006 (edited) Photos aren't the greatest, even not visible without a third eye enabled, watch out for mind control bodo monkey. Edited April 17, 2007 by darcy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spunwhirllin Posted February 22, 2006 ID looks dead on to me,though I only have one reference. Lucky Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Dunkel Posted February 22, 2006 (edited) Congrats!!! I have two that look like that and one that has displayed the more classic broad phylloids. There should be a gland just near base of the phylloid, on the top side. It gets this drop of sweet liquid in the mornings!!! (I should note that the seed was left over 'Torsten' research stuff, so my two could be the maidenii's ;)) Edited February 22, 2006 by Ed Dunkel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_e_ Posted February 22, 2006 btw- just some bits and pieces, these guys have huge root systems, an adaptation that has most likely allowed them to live in granite crevices with very little subsoil... whilst they grow bigger in areas where they have a little more soil to move round in, they will live for quite a while in very little soil with long outstretched roots and a taproot that grows quite quickly from an early age. Also as with many of the acacias of particular interest, they grow amongst the quarts veins, so maybe chucking some quarts in the next re-pot might give em a hand.... they are used to extremes, it gets up to 46 quite a lot of the year and down to minus degrees quite a lot as well as havign quite quick temperature fluctuations with very hot days and very cold nights... Give them plenty of room and a granite base, and keep the wasps away ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
indigo264nm Posted February 22, 2006 The vein structures on the phyllodes are amazing... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Dunkel Posted March 12, 2006 These are mine, they look quite the same. Thanks again Torsten for those old leftover research stock, possibly mixed with A. maidenii, seeds. These three came up and are doing fine, I'm planting them out this autumn. Hope they reach seeding maturity down in Melbourne. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_e_ Posted March 13, 2006 (edited) Ed- when planting out do it as soon as u possibly can, if possible on a n/e facing slope with granite substrate... I notice u have plant matter at the base, im not sure what the benefits may be but a lot fo the specimens ive seen that have been grown in pots have gravel/granite chunks to simulate their natural environ... i dont know if it helps but i have seen a very healthy 4 year old doing great with this sort of 'simulated environ'.. Also, i have my suspicians that quartz, and particularly the quartz vein that exposes itself along ridgelines is of good resonance to the plant and its survival. Darcy-surprised i didnt pick up on it earlier but 7 survivng plants out of 13 seeds is INCREDIBLE!!! well done, whatever ur doing ur doing it right! Edited March 13, 2006 by min(E)rval Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_e_ Posted March 13, 2006 now for some porn!!!! these photos should give u a good idea of the natural habitat and are what people will be trying to simulate if they want to crank out some phlleb plants in the ground! theres more to come, hoping to set up a website to showcase the whole kit and caboodle of our interactions with the majick plants of australia... but that is depending on support from computer savvy volunteers... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
apothecary Posted March 13, 2006 ... but that is depending on support from computer savvy volunteers... PM me for whatever you need? My offer to help from the first time we met still stands my friend Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foolsbreath Posted March 13, 2006 Wow, what an environment. Has that been fire effected? looks like there is a lot of new ground cover? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foolsbreath Posted March 13, 2006 After having said all that about the very variable climatic condition, would it be fairly safe to say that any root material below the bedrock, would be fairly well protected from the extremes? aswell as holding good moisture reserves for the warmer days/months? What a survival technique!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
_e_ Posted March 13, 2006 i can only imagine how far and deep their roots would venture... probably intermingling amongst themselves creating somekind of mycelial like root mass that would look just as intricately connected and anastamised as the veins in their phyllodes... 'as above and beyond so too below and within'.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Salviador Posted March 13, 2006 i can only imagine how far and deep their roots would venture... probably intermingling amongst themselves creating somekind of mycelial like root mass that would look just as intricately connected and anastamised as the veins in their phyllodes... 'as above and beyond so too below and within'.. wow, a sculptor and a poet... This site has truly topped off a beautiful day for me, thank you Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Dunkel Posted March 13, 2006 Ed- when planting out do it as soon as u possibly can, if possible on a n/e facing slope with granite substrate... I notice u have plant matter at the base, im not sure what the benefits may be but a lot fo the specimens ive seen that have been grown in pots have gravel/granite chunks to simulate their natural environ... I plnated the big one yesterday, against a warm fence, sunny location with several handfulls of crushed granite and a pinch of dolomite/trace elements mixed in with it. Slightly raised in the garden bed. I noticed not too many root nodules, but there are several other acacia's several meters on either side which are doing great. (A. maidenii, A. acinacea, A. podalyriifolia) Maybe some nitrogen fixing bacteria will be transfered or is already in the soil (unless a specific one is required for A.phlebophylla). I used native potting mix with 1/3 perlite (for drainage) and crushed granite as the soil mix. They seem to like it. On the soil surface is just a thin layer of mulch, to reduce excessive drying. Some of it from around a Acacia verticillata. I have heard of using quartz mulch for use in trying to grow Grevilleas and other such plants from dry hot climates in cooler climates. This was done for a garden full of WA natives to great effect at Maranoa park. The quartz reflects a lot of solar radiation (heat, light as well as UV). It can be quite glarry walking around but the plants lap it up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
