apothecary Posted November 20, 2005 Hi all! Was doing a bit of research, and came across a tidbit on mulgas site about D. myoporoides. It says that in Sydney, this plant does not produce scopolamine, rather it produces hyoscyamine due to climate or somesuch. Is this true? I do not mind owning a D. myoporoides, but I would like a source of each of pure (as possible) tropanes to experiment with in the hopes of discovering the best. I have Atropa belladonna for atropine, Hyoscyamus niger/albus and D. stramonium v. tatula for hyoscyamine, and am looking for a scopolamine source. My hopes had rested with D. myoporoides, but that looks unpromising now (if this information is true). Are there any other plants that do pure scopolamine? If so, can I get seeds? Much love. ~apothecary Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gunter Posted November 20, 2005 At some stage of growth Datura produces mainly scopolamine, I can get some information about this. I think it is seedlings grown in the dark, but I forget. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
apothecary Posted November 21, 2005 Scopolia carniolica looks like a good place to start for pure scopolamine. I will look into it. http://www.bbc.co.uk/gardening/plants/plan...ges/11056.shtml Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Torsten Posted November 21, 2005 You are hell bent on spreading this myth about Desfontainia, aren't you? Please stop. As for sources of scopolamine, you might want to have a look at Iochroma. I can supply leaves of the dark blue species. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
apothecary Posted November 21, 2005 Sorry this one and the other one posted at the same time last night. Will edit. Will look at Iochroma. Thanks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Happy Cadaver Posted November 21, 2005 what's the myth? That Desfontainia contains scopolamine? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Torsten Posted November 21, 2005 arrrrghh! yes. Apoth has decided that because the name "Borrachero" which means intoxicant in the local language is applied to both Brugmansia and Desfontania, that both must contain scopolamine. Please please make this idea go away. Quickly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Torsten Posted November 21, 2005 btw, I don't have a problem with considering the possibility of tropanes in this species, but this should be done on the basis of traditional usage, chemical analysis, or bioassay. My objection is about jumping to conclusions and creating hysteria (which is more due to the way people react to the word tropane than to the actual way you post about it). I'd really like some decent work done into this herb as it is readily available, but does not have any established procedure or dosage. Personally I am certain it is not of a tropane nature, but then again, it is difficult to ascertain these things if you're not getting any decent effect Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
