lichen Posted May 31, 2004 Hello, I'm interested in growing flys on some nearby pine trees just for fun. What would be the best way to go about doing this? Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Dunkel Posted June 1, 2004 Place A. muscaria caps gills down around trees that it can form a "symbiosis"/mycorhyzzal relationship with. Take a spore print, make a syringe of it and spray the solution near the fine roots of the tree (found near the dripline of the tree). I used a combination of these things and managed to get one patch going (it started fruiting again!!) for 3-4 years now. Check some of the older posts in the archives or in this forum. Good luck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mescalito Posted June 1, 2004 I'm gunna establish some this season too hopefully so thanks for that one ED :D I was toying with the idea of grain spawning into furrows around the base.I don't know whether the mycelia would like grains or maybe pine sawdust would work better! I sent some nice prints to DrSyntax last year some time so if your lurking how did they go? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lichen Posted June 1, 2004 Thanks 4 that, I've buried a cap upsidedown near the trunk but would further out nearer the branch tips be better? Also how far down would the roots be? There's a lot of earth and pine needles. Also, would dry caps still be OK to use? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waterdragon Posted June 1, 2004 various spruce types, birch and oak all seem to encourage much better fruiting than what can be achieved with p.radiata. interestingly an area that i've been checking for the last few years must have finally came of age because this year there is a multitude of caps where there was previously none, so make sure that your target trees are old enough. had fly pop up three steps from my front door under birch too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rev Posted June 1, 2004 mescalito: I'm gunna establish some this season too hopefully so thanks for that one ED :D I was toying with the idea of grain spawning into furrows around the base.I don't know whether the mycelia would like grains or maybe pine sawdust would work better! I sent some nice prints to DrSyntax last year some time so if your lurking how did they go? so far as i know this species cant be cultivated in vitroI do have some recipes for agar used for amanitas but the problem is manyt cultures grow very slowly and lose their ability to for ECM's with te host quickly in a sterile environ A spore solution is definitely the way I have seen A muscaria mycorhizal root tips , they are like white coraloid strctures on the ends of the feedre root tips with the myc leading out into the ground So my suggestion is to scarpe back the mulc to expose the feeder roots, squirt spores on them and recover Do this at a time when sufficent moisture exists and temps are mild Best practice till we know more id say Of course Ed did this successfully already so hats off! ive put some of Ed's progeny onto my pines so well see if it can be perpetuated BTW whats the easiest way to propagate birch? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waterdragon Posted June 1, 2004 quote: Originally posted by reville: BTW whats the easiest way to propagate birch? [/QB] hanging on an answer to this one. have plenty of trees for cuttings if that's the go, also i've seen birches spreading in remote locations as if by seed. if all my library wasn't in boxes i'd have an answer by now. might do a google for an answer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waterdragon Posted June 1, 2004 google provides: http://www.bonsai-bci.com/species/birch.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mescalito Posted June 1, 2004 Hmmm there's some nice spruce just across the road... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rev Posted June 2, 2004 Yes WD have seen plenty plenty Birch seed on plants in SW WA but out of the hundreds of thosuands made by this decnt sized planting not one seedling about I presume this is a matter of stratification Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flip Posted June 2, 2004 Hummm, Just a rough question I wonder what the likelyhood of a container tree supporting a active culture might be? lets say a large tub container treelet a few years old Might be ablet to support a active culture and fruit every so often.... Anyone with thoughts upon this? What tree species would be the best host for such a arrangement? [ 02. June 2004, 15:50: Message edited by: Flip ] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
smogs Posted June 3, 2004 heh heh or a bonsai that can fruit 1 mushroom the same size as the tree Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
strangebrew Posted June 3, 2004 I've given a few pines an Amanita spore fix this year too! If aussie flys aren't up to much, has anyone considered trying an O.S. strain? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rev Posted June 4, 2004 Yeah better get onto Theo - he reckons UK Fly are pretty good, of course he could be just biased Besides it seems from reports that our Fly is as good as any Is there any A pantherina here yet? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
visualfx Posted June 4, 2004 have heard a few unconfirmed reports of isolated sightings of pantherina in centenial park in sydney. from a pretty reliable source to... [ 04. June 2004, 13:46: Message edited by: visualfx ] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
