AndyAmine. Posted August 14, 2005 Hi all, I picked up these 2 fellas the other day from my loacl nursery.. the guy grabbed them especialy for me.. kool guy.. Im thinking the top one is a bridgesii but Im not sure of the 2nd. its not a myrtillocactus, they had them there and the spines were difernt on the young'ns to this one. The Bridgesii has really nice V notches on the areols that hasnt come up that well on the pictures, Ill try and get a better picture. T.Bridgesii Unknown Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rev Posted August 14, 2005 def not bridgesii its some kind of macrogonoid and the second one is myrtillocactus species a young one unsure of species Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyAmine. Posted August 14, 2005 Here's a view of the V notches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evil Genius Posted August 14, 2005 I would say too that it is definately not a bridgesii. On the first pic it looks much more macrogonoid than peruvianoid.Somehow the spines look peruvianoid too to me but i might be wrong. I can´t wait to see more pics when it is mature. Unfortunately, i never discovered some Trichos in the nurserys around the place i´m living.Only wack euphorbias. Nice find! [ 14. August 2005, 10:51: Message edited by: Evil Genius ] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
strangebrew Posted August 14, 2005 I think you've got yourself a KK242/cuzcoensis and a myrtillo geometrizans. This is also known as the blue candle and yours is certainly blue! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
faslimy Posted August 14, 2005 both of them are NICE Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M S Smith Posted August 14, 2005 I'm with strangebrew on this one 100%. The first clearly looks to be the "T. peruvianus KK242" (T.cuzcoensis). One of the distinct features of the plant is the color of the spine bases after they begin to stiffin up and before they fade; they have that really dark colored base to them, almost blackish. You can see it in these pictures. The "wavy" pattern in the tips new growth also sets it appart from both T. bridgesii and the T.peruvianus/macrogonus sort. The second is obviously a M.geo. ~Michael~ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyAmine. Posted August 14, 2005 Wow, looks like I need to go back to the books then, LOL Its just so blue, the pix dont do it justice and its no like my other kk242 you ID'd here a while ago in that it didnt have those V notches. I guess its just in better health. They Had Myrtillo.Geo seedlings of the same size there too and they had a longer central spine. I say its another kind of Myrt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
strangebrew Posted August 15, 2005 To put it bluntly, garden centres don't know shit most of the time, especially when it comes to succulents. These are generally plants that languish in some forgotten corner and end up dying a miserable death in lot's of places. Very few have people that are succulent enthusiasts and they only ever put on the names they're given, if at all. Over the year's I've seen some hilarious labels, sheesh, I only have to walk in the local botanic gardens for a laugh! Even specialists like Garden World can get them wrong. It is far more likely that the place you got them are incorrect. Myrtillocactus eichlamii is one that is known to have longer centrals. This page has a few pictures of myrtillo's - http://www.f-lohmueller.de/cactus/Myrtillo...llocactus01.htm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyAmine. Posted August 15, 2005 Yes, I totaly agree with you Strangebrew although this guy's supplier is unusual in that he's usaly pretty spot on with his lables, thats why I took his work for it. There are some really healthy 40cm high geo's there that are total beasts.. so good looking but there are so many other cacti I have to buy first.. LOL Do your KK242's have the V notches like that? Im sure it would be a hybrid anyway.. Thanks for the help fellas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teonanacatl Posted August 15, 2005 yes my kk242 has those Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
strangebrew Posted August 15, 2005 Having those notches seems to be the norm. This one had notches from hell when it was younger. I was disappointed when it lost this form. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndyAmine. Posted August 15, 2005 Yeah, nice, she's a realy beauty. Whats peoples real world knowladge on the potency of these plants, Ive heard its extreemly variable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rev Posted August 15, 2005 no knowledge but i do also know that there are Myrtillocactus schenckii getting about mine are still small but who knows it could be that The polaskia chichipe also look similar to myrts when small Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
