cactuslizardmagick Posted May 11, 2004 earthalchemy currently offer over 15 varieties of Lophophora seed, including L. williamsii (Peyote). Feel free to check out the website, offer interesting trades, and email us with requests. Be well Steffen ------- www.earthalchemy.org Peyote seed and other sacred cacti Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
M S Smith Posted May 11, 2004 These are obviously all Koehres seed and though I don't want to lessen anyones enthusiasm to collect them all it should be said that these "varieties" are in many cases nothing but collection locales and will likely show only slight, if any, variation in growth habit from standard L. williamsii. In my own opinion the selling of L.w. seed as "variations" based on location is nothing more than a ploy to sell more seed, but that is the sellers perogative I suppose. But there is nothing wrong with being well informed I might also suppose. If one is purely looking for variation I suggest the "L.w. var. decipiens" which I (and some ohers) would suggest is L. williamsii subspecies fricii var. decipiens. Of course the "L. fricii var albiflora" (L.w. ssp fricii var. albiflora) is a must as it has white flowers. The L. diffusa var koehresii is also known as L. viridescens and might possibly be its own species that is an intermediary between L. williamsii and L. diffusa. It seems quite clearly though to bear more relation to L. diffusa than to L. williamsii and grows between the nothern-most range of the former and the southern-most range of the latter. Check this out. http://www.koehres-kaktus.de Hit the American flag, hit "pictures" on the left, hit "kakteen," and then "L-M." But be sure to come back and also hit "www.Lophophora.info," and then click "Bilder." And though I haven't remarked on this too much E. triglochidiaus as it is known today is in all probablity not one of the "Hikuri of the Sierra" as described by R. Bye. E. triglochidiatus grows significantly too far north to have been collected by the Tarahumara. In all likelihood the correct "Hikuri of the Sierras" is Echinocereus polyacanthus (from Cosihuiriachi, Chihuahua, Mexico), formerly known as Echinocereus triglochidiatus var. polyacanthus (Engelmann) Benson, a plant that does grow in Tarahumaraland. Bye likly was going by the earlier name, but should you be purchasing plants today as E. triglochidiatus you are certainly not getting E. polyacanthus. E. triglochidiatus proper comes from Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas, USA. It should also be said that E. triglochidiatus does not contain 5-methoxy-dimethyltryptamine (5-MeO-DMT) as repeatedly mentioned (often as a sales ploy), but rather contains N,N-dimethylhistamine. ~Michael~ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flip Posted May 22, 2004 That site is the motherload of all lorph images it's really nice to have a image of the natural range including hillsides to aquire a better understanding of the it's habitat. vs just a series of closeups and dug up/cut "buttons" or greenhoue collections. Thank you!!! [ 22. May 2004, 08:52: Message edited by: Flip ] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
strangebrew Posted May 23, 2004 Yeah, that site is a beauty! Gotta love I want one!! :cool: :cool: :cool: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
planthelper Posted May 23, 2004 orgasmo! wow just found out i am bent towards lophs. otherwise, how could it be explained that this image stimulates me similar like porn does? back home in europa i used to have many lophs, including an alba and a gigantic williemsi, pity i could not bring them with me into oz... [ 23. May 2004, 15:01: Message edited by: planthelper ] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
