Nick Posted March 28, 2003 G'day, does anyone know the best type of rootstock to use for grafting a Lophophora williamsii onto? Should I use a T. pachanoi or a Myrtillocactus, or something else? from Nick Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mesq Posted March 28, 2003 The rootstock should be a fast growing columnar cactus.. T.pachanois or T.scopulicola are generally used to graft Lophophora but i'm sure Myrtillocactus would be fine too... try www.sphosting.com/cactus for some good grafting info Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Darklight Posted March 29, 2003 Agree with you on that Mesq, am currently doing grafting comparisons with T. scop vs Myrtillocactus vs plain old pups in pots. Should have results in a year or two, but T scop currently winning in terms of size Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
carpetclown Posted March 31, 2003 I have done a lot off grafting over the years and I have noticed the best results for me are Trichocereus spachianus (golden torch) and Myrtillocactus (blue Myrtle) The take rate is far better then others I would use pedro and scopys as my second choice. I have noticed that the grafts done a few years back on the spachianus are winning the size race. Can be hard to obtain enough Myrtillocactus. And I have found Trichocereus peruvianus does not work to well. That’s just from my experience Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nick Posted April 1, 2003 Cheers, I'm going to give it a try. I've got a blue Myrtil and some golden torches that could be used as a rootstock, I'll have to give it a shot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
woof woof woof Posted April 20, 2003 http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/104.html enjoy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rev Posted April 30, 2003 carpetclown: I have noticed that the grafts done a few years back on the spachianus are winning the size race.[QB]sure do!!! i put on a peas size loph 3 months ago and its grown very fast and pupped already (see picture below) [QB] Can be hard to obtain enough Myrtillocactus. Isnt that the truth. http://www.shaman-australis.com/publicpics...hspachianus.jpg [ 30. April 2003, 19:13: Message edited by: reville ] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
silent_bob84au Posted May 7, 2003 so if i grafted a pea sized loph onto san pedro for eg? what kind of growth could i expect? my gnome is gunna grow himself some without grafting but he also wants some to grow reasonably quick.? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shroomy Posted May 8, 2003 silent_bob84au:my gnome is gunna grow himself some without grafting but he also wants some to grow reasonably quick.? grafting lophs is great fun and they look shit hot but size is not important because it still takes 10 to 15 years for the alkaloids to build up, kind of like a good port really. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mesq Posted May 15, 2003 silent_bob84au: so if i grafted a pea sized loph onto san pedro for eg? what kind of growth could i expect? my gnome is gunna grow himself some without grafting but he also wants some to grow reasonably quick.? You have to compare the size of the scion (the peyote) to the size of the rootstock they should be around the same size...just makes it easier to align the vascular rings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rev Posted June 8, 2003 quick is good - if like me you have no intention of ever eating them my pic was peasized when it went on and single - that pic was at just 3 months - im sure i could do better too. I read on erowid? about japanese grafters getting loph from seed to flowering in 18 months? searching.... 'Peyote is easily cultivated and is free-flowering. On the other hand, one must be very patient if he wishes to grow peyote from seed, as it may take up to five years to obtain a plant that is 15 millimeters in diameter. At any stage, however, peyote can be readily grafted onto faster-growing rootstocks, and this usually triples or quadruples the plant's rate of growth. Japanese nurserymen, for example, have obtained peyote plants large enough to flower within a period of 12-18 months by grafting the young seedlings onto more robust root stocks.' this is good news as you can play with forms and hybrids n stuff - I just bought a mammilaria heyderii damn shoul dhave picked up that bocasana 'Of interest is that L. williamsii has been successfully crossed with Mammillaria bocasana and M. zeilmanniana. The former producing plants with a distinctly more tuberculate form, the latter producing plants with dark red flowers. Lophophora flowers are very structurally similar to Mammillaria flowers, and an interesting speculation might be that L. williamsii var. decipiens is a natural hybrid between L. williamsii and a Mammillaria species.' http://www.cactus-mall.com/mss/#42 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Dunkel Posted June 9, 2003 Anyone know the hardyness of Lophophora's when grafted? I have a couple grafted on T. pachanoi and M. geometrizans and kept outside. It is getting cold now (victoria) and I was wondering if I should start taking them inside? I guess I'm probably limited by the stock cactus' cold hardyness, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shroomy Posted June 9, 2003 Ed Dunkel: It is getting cold now (victoria) and I was wondering if I should start taking them inside? Stop wondering and take them inside, i lost a grafted loph (pachanoi) last year to frost and cold and had a single loph starting to mush up this year until it came inside Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Dunkel Posted June 12, 2003 They still look very healthy and plump on top of T. pachanoi and M. geometrizans. They even seem to still be growing (the T. pach grafted one especially) Your right, I shouldn't risk it. They are going in tonight. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
