planthelper Posted November 4, 2004 i spoke a few day's ago with no 2 about, " no pollinators for star jasmine in our nick of the world". well and as syncronisity struck's often with "people with idea's (c dl's post )", i observed a hummingbird small & looking like a moth, pokeing her/his tiny elongated peak into trachelospermum jasminoides flower's! :D that was the smalles't bird if ever seen, and i am proud of it. i think climatic conditions at my current location will not allowe any seed setting, but jolaridiooooeh, i am sure that's this plant's natural pollinator, and this minute bird might be able of fertilizing sally aswell, what's you guess? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mr toodly Posted November 4, 2004 Word around the barnyard is that Sally has greater ferility issues than barriers to pollenation. You look like a bee! >I'll pollenate you! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
planthelper Posted November 4, 2004 yes, but viable seed was collected @ hawai(spell?) botanical gardens by siebert, and i guess they have excactly the same sally clone as we all.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monkeydance Posted November 5, 2004 i have collected 1 pod off a star jasmine at the nursery i work in, i was amazed as i remembered hearing it never set seed in australia. anyway, i still have the pod, i will take pictures if anyone is interested, and send seed to whoever cares enough to grow it out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seeker Posted November 6, 2004 Untill this time last year I lived in the Brisbane area growing interesting things, amongst which was Star Jasmine. From time to time I found SJ seed pods but not many. I now live in Melbourne and have found SJ seed pds to be NOT unusual at all especially in the autumn at my local Bunnings. The seed pods are paired in a boomerang formation with a common stalk from the central bend. The seeds themselves are a dark brown, almost black, colour with a silky "feather" at one end. For those living on the southside of Brisbane and looking for source material try the car park flower beds at the Hyperdome and also around the back at the Browns Plains shopping centre Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rev Posted November 7, 2004 So melbourne and not the top end is the place to head for Ibogaine i see HM ibogaine is in the seeds anyway? and might it be usable as is, or are there other toxic compounds with it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
monkeydance Posted November 7, 2004 yep seeker, same as the 1 I saw. glad its not as rare as i had heard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seeker Posted November 11, 2004 Still looking for a pollinater for TJ?? you may find it profitable to research "Euploea core corinna" also known as the "The Common Crow or Oleander Butterfly". It is reportedly the primary pollinator of APOCYNACEAE, MORACEAE, and ASCLEPIADACEAE. It's primary range appeares to be Australia wide commen as far south as Sydney and has been reported, not uncommonly??, in Melbourne and Adelaide. Seeker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tryptameanie Posted November 30, 2004 Wow,a hummingbird in Australia! On a hot summer night a year or two ago I saw a moth drinking from a "jasmine" (can't remember now whether it was T. Jasminoides or your common jasmine). The moth was about 1" but it's proboscis was over 2", and gleamed metallic white in the moon/street light. [ 30. November 2004, 13:52: Message edited by: Tryptameanie ] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2b Posted November 30, 2004 To the best of my knowledge there are no Humming birds in Australia ?? :confused: The Azure Kingfisher is a cool little bird , but not a Humming bird by any stretch of the imagination. I have never seen a Humming bird and am a keen bird watcher , but then again i've never been to North America. Sure it wasn't an Azure Kingfisher ??? Azure kingfisher Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ramon Posted December 1, 2004 I have a azure kingfisher visit me quite regularly. Probably the bird I most like to see, but get a bit nervous when they sit and watch the gold fish. To date they haven't got one I think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
planthelper Posted December 1, 2004 tryptameanie, the moth you saw must have been in fact this type of hummingbird! because it looks like a moth, and when i first saw it, i thought, strange a moth flying around during daytime (there was a light drizzel of rain, guess thats what made this bird leave its hiding place)? when i got very close, i realised to my amazement that it was a bird. a bird measuring i guess, just 25mm by 40mm! i called it a hummingbird because it behaved(hovers on the spot without movment) & looked like one(had a small typical long cylindrical peak 1.5mm wide and 20mm long, designed to drink from the flowers). i often saw king fischers at the mary river at gympie...., but they are heavy weights compared to this tiny bird and there peak is designed for catching aquatic prey and not for pokeing into flowers. edit: using the searchengines failed, they all claim the weebill is australiest smallest bird. no info on small hummingbirds in oz either. the world recordholder for smallest bird is though a humming bird ;)native to cuba!! i will try to contact some specialists about that, excited... [ 01. December 2004, 08:29: Message edited by: planthelper ] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
2b Posted December 1, 2004 25-40mm , Dam !!that's small. Once in Northern Laos up near the Chineese /Viet border i saw some vey small bats come out just on dusk.They were about the size of your thumb nail !!! At first i thought they were moths but on closer inspection i realised they were bats , no mistake i could clearly see the litle guys and boy were they cool :D No beak tho so i guess what you've seen is deffinetly a bird.The fact that it has a long beak tends to make me think it could possibly be from the honey eater family , they can be quite small (but never heard of one as small as 25-40mm!!!) would love to see a pick if you ever capture the little bugger on film !! Keep us informed as to what it is if you get it indentified. :D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
planthelper Posted December 1, 2004 i did some research and sent an enquirie to the syd museum. no such bird is described in oz, according to net searches.. btw, i took digi cam shots, but can't see anything on them, and further so you know it's for real, two more people saw the bird aswell! [ 01. December 2004, 12:41: Message edited by: planthelper ] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
planthelper Posted December 3, 2004 the museum thinks i saw a moth, but i tell you friends, i had a close up look, it was a MINITURE HUMMINGBIRD. conclusion, i fxxxing made an accidental discovery, that no body will believe and the bird in question is proly close to extinction anyway, so bye, bye, tiny bird nobody than me will ever know you excisted.... but somehow i feel that i will not give up on this one, a professionel aproach might be able to capture this bird next year once the star jasmin starts flowering again. but this is work for the specialists, and it's them who doubt my observation. so i will try to lobby my case, with the hope that somebody one time can clear up this situation. if i would not have posted here, i would not even know that miniture hummingbirds are said not to excist in oz. [ 03. December 2004, 12:30: Message edited by: planthelper ] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
