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Hey @zed240

I think this thread needs some pictures.

You would have the most pictures of sa ss terscheckii flower that i know of. Any chance you could post a few up mate? 

I have a shed valida flower opening in the next week so i will take some photos of that from every different angle. Would be good to compare??

Sure, I'll give it a go. Here is a bunch of the images I've managed to track down in the different places I seem to save my pictures.......

 

When the flowers decide to grow and open on a horizontal plane they look like more "san pedro" types, but my plant has often flowered on a much more vertical plane which is a bit reminiscent of the way lots of the giants flowers point towards the sky. Although I now think my plant flowers pointing toward the sky due to the plants growing near it making the plant point them more toward the light, than the other plants, but that's a bit of a guess from observing it a few times. You can see both horizontal and more vertical flower pics lower down this post. 

 

I also note just before they open the tip of the flower buds on this plant are much more rounded than the tips of flowers are on other trichos, perus and pachs always seem to have very sharp pointed tips to their flower buds just before they open. 

 

See how round the tips on all these buds are, (that are only a day or so from opening). A peru or pach flower at the same stage will be very pointy. 

 

P1101937 close up flowers (resized Copy).jpg - in comparison, see how pointy the yet to open buds are on this scop. PC020924 scop flowers Heynes (resized Copy).JPG

 

Hairs on the flowers always seem to be a light grey, whether shaded or in sun they've always been light grey and I've never seen particularly dark hair on this plant, personally. 

 

P1052231 (resized Copy).JPG  P1052233 close up AAAAA (resized Copy).jpg  P1052234 (resized Copy).JPG  P1052236 (resized Copy).JPG  

 

P1071791 (resized Copy).JPG  P1071793 (resized Copy).JPG  P1101923 (resized Copy).JPG  P1101937 (resized Copy).JPG  

 

P1101938 (resized Copy).JPG  P2242972 (resized Copy).JPG  P2242972 close up side on flower (resized Copy).jpg  P2242973 (resized Copy).JPG 

 

P3063157 (resized Copy).JPG  P3063158 (resized Copy).JPG  P3093247 SA SS tersch X Hahn pach fruit (resized Copy).JPG  PB210778 (resized Copy).JPG 

 

PC020906 (resized Copy).JPG  PC020907 (resized Copy).JPG  PC020914 SA SS Tersch flowers (resized Copy).JPG  PC020919 (resized Copy).JPG 

 

PC020941 (resized Copy).JPG  PC020941 close up flowers (resized Copy).jpg  PC020945 (Copy) smut SA SS Tersch flowers.JPG  PC261378 (resized Copy).JPG

 

I have also found it extremely difficult to get any pollen from the SA SS tersch in the past. I was successful this year but could not manage it the last couple of years before that. I got a very tiny amount to fall off into a glass as pollen "dust" that I applied to flowers on other plants later on, and I also had success ripping off some SA SS anthers and rubbing them directly onto the stigma of a scop flower that was open on the same night as the SA SS flower was. (no worries about other things possibly pollinating it as I cover the flowers up with netting bags before and after pollination). 

 

Scop X SA SS tersch fruit Anther transfer.jpg  P3043089 Scop X SA SS tersch fruit (resized Copy).JPG

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hey why dont you send me a cut to see how it grows in mediterranean sun? :P

 

also, so much talk about origin and species and not a word on growing habit, description, as if a pic can replace the description. 

 

PS: you think DNA's gonna solve everything? think again, trichocereus might never be resolved. 

 

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