Twice exceptional or Messianic Complex?

[?SaToriBluE?]

Look out world, suspend your disbelief, the new school of religion is here: Universalism. Yeh I know, fuck the Christians on this one I want that name and they can't have it. Honestly whatever your into that's find by me but you can't have the word: Universalism, that one's mine, cause I said so. =)

It has been a couple of seriously hardcore years at uni and things are just starting to take a turn for the surreal. And it just so happens that I fully dig the surreal.

Boo mutha fucken yah.

http://www.ldonline.org/ld_indepth/gt_ld/g.../gifted_ld.html

You know, I went to University a couple years back with my own agenda, in relation to eventually becoming a 'Philosopher of Religion' but I am not quite sure that I actually believed it myself. Let's just say, my writing has really improved over the last couple years and I am looking into the very real possibility that I might be twice exceptional to boot! It's a strange, strange universe. A lot of really cool and powerful people were twice exceptional. Twice exceptional is a classification of students who have learning disorders and ...drum roll please.. 'giftedness'. It appears that I have 'exotic abstract reasoning ability'. =)

Now the only thing I have to worry about is when I need to go book my appointment at the 'Centre for the Gifted.' Although, like usual I am still getting ahead of myself. This is just the most likely hypothetical diagnoses that I will inevitably get, anything else would be down to error on their part of the uni psykes at this point but I am fairly certain I can go way over their heads on this one and find someone who understands where I am coming from. I think the uni psyke is still trying to figure out how I could anticipate my current situation in the first page of my notebooks from 12 years ago which I was happy to show her. =) I think the poor woman is going to need a team of her own therapists by the time were done. Although I am having a wonderful time and find it all quite incredably amusing, especially after they said they were going to videotape the sessions. =) I am such a naughty boy.

God dammit, I keep trying to write fiction but the reality keeps happening.

spooky shit

?SaToriBluE?

[ 13. April 2004, 16:00: Message edited by: ?SaToriBluE? ]

[baggs]

Messianic complex. Self -delusional perhaps.

[nabraxas]

sartori--i've read it 3 times & i still can't work out what you're trying to say--& i speaky inglis preddy vell

the quality (or amount) ov drugs @ uni's must be getting better?

[?SaToriBluE?]

Hey I am just your average everyday Philosopher of Religion, specializing in how religions are founded, created and designed, nothing more, nothing less. There's nothing odd about that is there? I mean it's all about what kind of spin you put on things right?

Ahhh you neurotypical people, you just don't understand, that's okay, I don't mind waiting for you to catch up. You'll figure it out, eventually. ...looks down at his quantum watch that's just been chilled down to absolute zero to check the time...

It's okay I normally find that the first stage people go through is misunderstanding me, then acceptance, and then absolute fear at the realization that I am for real. And depending on whether they start to have a nervous breakdown or not at that point, people then start to realize I am actually a pretty polite and nice guy as well. And some people then go onto being my true friends and some, well, I don't worry to much about them anymore.

Hey Torsten, how's things? I hope life is treating you well. I finally have everything reasonably under control on my end ie: I'm happy; I have women (in my case); I am not addicted to anything except gym and my writing and developing my philosophies; I'm healthy again; I don't have Internet at home; if things go well I am going to get the equivalent of an OP1 from the Universe itself and an open ended ticket to realizing all my intellectual and spiritual ambitions; etc, etc. (I hope you can almost smell the hypercool nonchalance at this point, I have been trying to cultivate that sort of thing lately.)

Everything has fallen into place nicely since I left, much to my own surprise of course. Still it's nice to finally have the quality of life I have sought after for so long. I am almost starting to get to the point that I can concentrate and focus at a reasonable level, by my own 'perfectionist' standards. I mean, one error in my judgement and humanity gets the wrong information right?

How is everyone by the way?

Geez Torsten, I have checked out a few forums over the last couple years and there is some really cool new stuff in regards to the options people have on some of them. The Overgrow forum is totally excellent. You can mute people you don't like so that they don't appear in your posts!!!!! It's wild! ...grins evilly...

I wouldn't worry Torsten, I have far more self control now. My life has evolved far beyond where it once was in the past, in every aspect. Although I have lost focus on the issues that are so significant on these forums, yet I have not lost total focus., it's just that all my focus is now on understanding all the dynamics of religion as they exist in the real empirical world, although the issues on this forum are still as important to me as they ever were. I heard recently that the 'MDMA trials' are going ahead in America ...?... although I am only superficially aware of the details. The bulk of my focus is on information pertaining to 'Giftedness'(PROFOUNDLY, INTERESTING INFORMATION) and 'Philosophy of Religion' (bla, bla, bla).

?SaToriBluE?

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[Chemical Shaman]

for no other reason than to throw a few spanners into the works........ dot dot dot dot dot

My, my, oh my Satori........ How quickly your post seems to have....... dropped .............. completely....... off............ the front page dot dot dot dot

Infact if I didn't come in and pluck it back up to the top surely your important revelations would have vanished into oblivion.

now im sure your shrink will tell you all sorts of soothing things like "Im sure that most people didn't see your post, that everybody was just distracted for the several weeks it took to fall to the bottom" or "Don't worry, everybody at SAB really does love you, they don't secretly laugh at you behind your back, they all KNEW you were in the right and the little cretin Chemical Shaman truly will get whats coming to him some day , just like you prophecised!"

I guess it's up to you to work out exactly what the truth here is. You seem to be mentally sound enough to do that now.

Well welcome back Satori, welcome back. But before we go any further or start with the tounge kissing I feel I should get you up to speed with what's been going on here. Just so you know:

I still own these forums (hysterical laughter)

I still play with my cock way more than I probably should

I still make innapropriate posts like a mafucker

I still gots the balls big enough to take on the mods about it too!

I could throw in some blathering crap too about how im still humpin yo mamma but you probably know that's not likely.

I feel it only fair that i issue you with a warning too, before you get too settled in here. My warning is thus:

Shall I get bored enough......... I will make sport of you Satori. And it doesn't even have to be very bored at all, infact it could simply be in between breakfast ketamine and brunch ketamine. And i'll probably only use one hand to do it too! One hand on the keyboard and the other hand "taking care of business" (more laughter). Infact if you knew the ease with which I instigated your previous demise it would probably send you into SUCH a tizzy that my inbox would suddenly become flooded with a similar influx of amusing taunts and threats to my personal welfare, as last time.

Fancy a trip down memory lane?? Goody.

this here is the thread

this is the one. The one where I finally decided that it was time for your reign of trying to get me banned from posting had to come to an end (more laughter). Im sure you'll remember it.

Anyways the amusing thing here is that it was of no consequence to me either way had I been banned or not. I simply would have gone somewhere else and played with my cock for a while, didn't really matter either way. It was the fact that you were getting far too big for your moderator boots that really got to me, it was becoming ridiculous and you were acting like a complete dick. You were the only one unable to see it however.

I want you to look at what i did for you as a favour. I mean look at how well you are going now. None of this would be possible were it not for me and your parents would still be throwing vast sums of money at their "problem child". I mean sure I sent you a little crazy there for a little while *chuckle*but if you could go back in time you'd be better of sending me letters of thanks than amusing death threats (more laughter).

You see Satori I do what I do for amusement. Not for anyone elses amusement but for my own. When somebody tries to fuck with my rolling flow of 'good times' it erks me slightly.

Let's get to your post shall we!! (yes lets!)

Look out world, suspend your disbelief, the new school of religion is here: Universalism.

You're in for a rude awakening when it all comes to an end and you realise that ultimately i am god. (chuckle chuckle)

Universalism, that one's mine, cause I said so. =)

Ummmm not if I copyright it first!!! (runs to copyright office)

You know, I went to University a couple years back with my own agenda, in relation to eventually becoming a 'Philosopher of Religion'

Ummm good to see you are doing something constructive with your life......

Im still god.

Twice exceptional is a classification of students who have learning disorders and ...drum roll please.. 'giftedness'. It appears that I have 'exotic abstract reasoning ability'. =)

Well I guess you can pretty much slap a label on anything. Even a can of baked beans "Look at those twice exceptional baked beans!". Dont you have to be at least once exceptional before you can be twice exceptional (laughing only at my stupid self). Congratulations on your new found classifications.

I think the uni psyke is still trying to figure out how I could anticipate my current situation

But seriously dude..... I think it's fantastic that you are getting the psychiatric help (attention) that you so obviously need. But I honestly feel in your circumstances that a plain ol' school apointed psych isnt gonna cut the mustard. I mean there's probably enough money in your trust fund alone to buy you a whole lifetime of professional psychiatric care, why don't you get mum and dad to take a chunk out and throw it on that, just to be safe.....

Ahhh you neurotypical people, you just don't understand, that's okay, I don't mind waiting for you to catch up.

And here was silly old me waiting around for you to catch up. Hah.

You can mute people you don't like so that they don't appear in your posts!!!!! It's wild! ...grins evilly...

Hmm well gee whizzers here. I wonder who could you possibly be talking about? You know as well as I do that it's total shit anyways. Im the 5 car pileup on the side of the road, you don't wanna look but you can't look away. Im the inner anus of the goatse man. The pierced midgets in your porno. Jus try and ignore me hahhahaha. I guess the ultimate test here would be to see if you reply to this post? i think you'd be better off just letting it drop off the page, and get on with your perfect life, because from here it could go either way!

There's no real structure or purpose to anything that I have written so far. I probably shouldnt have even bothered.

I guess this is my way of say "Welcome back Satori!" and "If you wanna dance, then lets dance."

-Chemical Shaman

(for shits and for giggles)

[?SaToriBluE?]

I wouldn't waste my energy with you Chem, you were a loser then and you're still a loser. My life is going somewhere and your life will forever be a dead end.

I'll survive your insignificance Chem.

=)

Honestly, I have a life now and am starting to gain respect in the real world for my capabiltities, capabilities that you will never understand.

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[waterdragon]

one of those 'yours' could stand conversion to a you're. that would be exceptional.

normally i wouldn't intervene, as i do recall with fondness your last debates. just a bump.

[ 29. April 2004, 21:14: Message edited by: waterdragon ]

[?SaToriBluE?]

Hey I just write the shit, correcting it is what editors are paid to do.

And they don't have Word on this machine. I am sitting at an Internet cafe.

I probably won't stick around on a forum where I can't self moderate and that can be done these days. (Take a look at the wild Overgrow forums!) I just dropped by to mention that everything is well on my end and the development of my philosophies is going full steam ahead and is seriously picking up speed.

I have a long way to go though, still, my work is really starting to improve.

You will all have to excuse my grammar, it was never my strong point and it certainly doesn't help that I am writing without a word processor. Twice exceptional people rely extremely heavily on technology to make up for their paradoxical strengths and weaknesses. That's why I provided a link to 'Twice exceptionality journal articles' so that you could get a better understanding of the subject. Duh!

=)

[ 29. April 2004, 21:39: Message edited by: ?SaToriBluE? ]

[waterdragon]

for a small fee i will be happy to correct where required. need my snailer for sending cheques? offer is open to all.

[ 29. April 2004, 21:27: Message edited by: waterdragon ]

[Chemical Shaman]

Woo! a reply!

I wouldn't waste my energy with you Chem, you were a loser then and you're still a loser. My life is going somewhere and your life will forever be a dead end.

hahahahahahaha, I couldn't possibly agree with you more! :D I know im a loser, but fuck me im good at it. I can already see my funeral in my mind, the most complimentry thing that people are going to say is "Man that Chemical Shaman...... he suuuure did a lot of drugs."

Ideally I would like most people at my funeral to say "Man that Chemical Shaman.......he suuure owed me a lot of money." ok so no disputes on the loser part, as far as dead end goes hmmm I dunno. Im always going to be able to look back on life and say "Mafucker that was fucken fun". Im pretty sure if you could take little sneak peak glimpses into my life you would trade it for your own in a heart beat. You couldn't believe the shit that i get up to, on a daily basis too.

Honestly, I have a life now and am starting to gain respect in the real world for my capabiltities, capabilities that you will never understand.

Like i said, im pretty happy that you were able to find a life, instead of wasting your time behind a computer entertaining my ass with empty threats. As far as capabilites go, im mafucking chock full of capabilities, only difference here is no trust fund, no house keeper, no moochin offa mum and dad etc. My world is real.

Hey I just write the shit, correcting it is what editors are paid to do.

Maybe you could get your house keeper to do it *snigger*. You wanna know the IRONY here?

If you can think back to 2001 you'll recall you were quite the editor indeed, remember? That's right, when we used to dance, you would make posts spouting a whole bunch of shit, then after I replied you would go back and edit them, trying to make me look the fool perhaps?

So if you do want to dance (and i believe you do) then lets lay down some rules maybe, NO EDITS. Shouldn't be too hard for somebody that's twice exceptional to follow.

You couldn't imagine the grin on my face right now, it's bigger than my cock.

As far as this "dropping by" business, I find it amusing that your post goes weeks without a reply, just about drops off the front page, then within 2 hours of me replying to your post, bang you're here. I wonder how often you were checking the Chill Space, expecting somebody to say something. Or lemme guess, this is one of them 'twice exceptional' coincidences right? you probably hadn't checked for a reply in weeks. Hah.

Funny thing is I really did like you quite a lot until you became a mod and started acting like a complete dick.

Ok, your move

-Chemical Shaman

[?SaToriBluE?]

Geez, take a valium and chill out Chem. I just came on to tell everyone how well life is turning out on my end and wish everyone the best.

Someone just sent me an email about it and I thought I would come in and take a look.

Watching you make a fool of yourself is hardly worth coming on for though.

Honestly, everything's fine on my end and your words have no substance.

You have some serious issues Chem.

My life's rocken I have no complaints.

I have evolved Chem but I can tell you haven't. That's okay I do pity you though.

My life's rocken I have no complaints.

But your just not worth the effort of worrying about.

Trust me Chem I have absolutely no interest in you.

No matter how clearly and elegantly I explained myself Chem you would never be able to keep up with my reasoning on any significant level. You just don't have the ability. It would be a waste of energy. And I simply can't lower myself to your level to communicate with you, in any useful way, that simply, is well beyond my capabilities.

[ 29. April 2004, 22:26: Message edited by: ?SaToriBluE? ]

[Chemical Shaman]

Geez, take a valium and chill out Chem. I just came on to tell everyone how well life is turning out on my end and wish everyone the best.

Heh a valium is totally unnecessary here. You have provided me with more smiles than I know what to do with. Im beyond chill. Im lovin' it.

Watching you make a fool of yourself is hardly worth coming on for though.

Well it's the only reason I come here Like it or lump it. I don't see myself stopping acting like a dick anytime soon.

You have some serious issues Chem.

Ummm George Bush is a bumbling idiot, Sky is Blue, Cops are fucked, Darklight likes vaginas, I touch myself on the cock too often- Oh hang on a minute here.......... I just checked my calender and it turns out today isn't "Let's state really obvious shit" day.

My life's rocken I have no complaints.

Maybe if you say it three times it will become truer.

I have evolved Chem but I can tell you haven't. That's okay I do pity you though.

Thanks for the pity! I really do appreciate it! As far as evolution goes I would say complete universal understanding and no actual fear of death is a pretty big evolutionary step. Whether or not these are concepts you have a full grasp of I doubt.

My life's rocken I have no complaints.

Ooh one more time Satori!! Come on I can see it becoming truer!!

No matter how clearly and elegantly I explained myself Chem you would never be able to keep up with my reasoning on any significant level. You just don't have the ability. It would be a waste of energy. And I simply can't lower myself to your level to communicate with you, in any useful way, that simply, is well beyond my capabilities.

Come on Satori, give it a try for old time's sake. Maybe i'll suprise the shit outta you!

Let's do away with these now [ 29. April 2004, 22:26: Message edited by: ?SaToriBluE? ] Fuck em' someone thats twice exceptional shouldnt need em.

What it comes down to is this: i gave you plenty of warning that I would make sport of you Satori, and as long as I find it amusing to me, myself and I (heh fuck anyone else) I will continue to do it. Simple really. I think ultimately what it's going to boil down to here is who ends up having the last word......... and I got as much words as your parents got dollars.

Feel free to co-exist with me here in this special little place, may you have an abundant "forum career" (laughs hysterically at Satori quote). Im happy to co-exist with you here too, unfinished business or no. You were quite a contributor before you went crazy *cookoo sound effect*. But im claiming this thread here as my playground, to hang as much shit and take as much piss as i deem amusing, for no reason other than 'because i fucken feel like it'.

-Chemical Shaman

ok your turn now

[Darklight]

Locking this for a bit til youse two play nicely together. And no I don't want to see the pictures