ElMundoDelCactos Posted September 26, 2014 Hello everyone. Would you help me to id those pereskiopsis in the pics? Thanking everyone for their time in advance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zelly Posted September 26, 2014 looks to be the same plant (p. spathulata) with different growing conditions your first pic looks like ones in my gh and the second pic looks like one i have outside in partial shade. ps the one outside flowered for me a few yrs ago, after i put it in full sun & baked it for a few months... 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Optimystic Posted September 27, 2014 is yours the hairless type Zelly? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hostilis Posted September 27, 2014 (edited) I have two different clones (or species?) of pereskiopsis. One hairy and one bald. The hairy clone gets bigger leaves, glochids, spines, and stocks. This clone grows slower and also seems to take longer to get woody. The bald clone grows smaller stocks, glochids, spines, and leaves. It grows faster and gets woody faster. Keep in mind these pictures are of plants in the same sized pots, light cycles, soil mixtures, fert/watering cycles, and everything. Hairy clone Bald Clone PS: Yours look like the bald clone grown in different conditions. Edited September 27, 2014 by hostilis Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zelly Posted September 27, 2014 is yours the hairless type Zelly? bald as a beaver , totally hairless, lol 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Optimystic Posted September 27, 2014 (edited) Outdoor grown Hairy2 types that are very similar, one just has bigger spines.. the bigger spined one has friendly glochids when grown under intense flouros... they stick but don't penetrate... they're just as mean on the outdoor grown plants tho the other you can see just shorter spines but they eventually get about as long on the older growth they just start out shorter for whatever reason... the shorter spined one in shadier conditions will grow really long thin leaves... grows more glochids too... in full sun looks almost exactly like the other.. the leaves pretty much shapeshift depending on light and other conditions... all new tips point up unlike the bald which gets whacky over time... the "friendlier" hairy one tends to go more to oval shaped leaves in shadier conditions, and really thick.. they still confuse me inspite of the differnces and i get them mixed up alot ... they graft about the same tho and both get much thicker than the bald type over time.. Outdoor grown BaldZany growth habit, lots of branching on its own with or without pruning, nasty glochids, smaller leaves... doesn't get as thick as the hairy types.... grafts pretty good and can hold weight.. i agree seems to get a bit woodier faster.. the epidermis is lot lighter green than the hairy types... got them from Zelly .... as for what they are called ... lol they hairys and the baldsi called one Porterii for a while... in my headalso i've read that Spathulata and Vellutina are synonymous but thats all the help I can offer Edited September 27, 2014 by Optimystic 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ElMundoDelCactos Posted September 28, 2014 looks to be the same plant (p. spathulata) with different growing conditions your first pic looks like ones in my gh and the second pic looks like one i have outside in partial shade. ps the one outside flowered for me a few yrs ago, after i put it in full sun & baked it for a few months... pereskiFLRDSC_0193b.jpg Thank you for your id. Very informative. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ElMundoDelCactos Posted September 28, 2014 I have two different clones (or species?) of pereskiopsis. One hairy and one bald. The hairy clone gets bigger leaves, glochids, spines, and stocks. This clone grows slower and also seems to take longer to get woody. The bald clone grows smaller stocks, glochids, spines, and leaves. It grows faster and gets woody faster. Keep in mind these pictures are of plants in the same sized pots, light cycles, soil mixtures, fert/watering cycles, and everything. Hairy clone post-12824-0-04289200-1389205553.jpg post-12824-0-32822900-1389205576.jpg Bald Clone post-12824-0-07299500-1389205529.jpg post-12824-0-94829100-1389205598.jpg PS: Yours look like the bald clone grown in different conditions. Thank you. Really interesting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ElMundoDelCactos Posted September 28, 2014 Outdoor grown Hairy 2 types that are very similar, one just has bigger spines.. the bigger spined one has friendly glochids when grown under intense flouros... they stick but don't penetrate... they're just as mean on the outdoor grown plants tho the other you can see just shorter spines but they eventually get about as long on the older growth they just start out shorter for whatever reason... the shorter spined one in shadier conditions will grow really long thin leaves... grows more glochids too... in full sun looks almost exactly like the other.. the leaves pretty much shapeshift depending on light and other conditions... all new tips point up unlike the bald which gets whacky over time... the "friendlier" hairy one tends to go more to oval shaped leaves in shadier conditions, and really thick.. they still confuse me inspite of the differnces and i get them mixed up alot ... they graft about the same tho and both get much thicker than the bald type over time.. DSC04680.JPG DSC04690.JPG Outdoor grown Bald Zany growth habit, lots of branching on its own with or without pruning, nasty glochids, smaller leaves... doesn't get as thick as the hairy types.... grafts pretty good and can hold weight.. i agree seems to get a bit woodier faster.. the epidermis is lot lighter green than the hairy types... got them from Zelly DSC04678.JPG DSC04725.JPG .... as for what they are called ... lol they hairys and the balds i called one Porterii for a while... in my head also i've read that Spathulata and Vellutina are synonymous but thats all the help I can offer Thank you for your information! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites