New species of Mammillaria!!! Mammillaria bertholdii

[hostilis]

So there was a new species of mammillaria discovered just this year.

Mammillaria bertholdii has been described in the 2/2014 issue of the AfM journal.

It is a plant from Oaxaca, which has tubercles similar to Pelecyphora asseliformis or Mammillaria pectinifera, and flowers like Mammillaria saboe. It is placed by its author, Thomas Linzen, in the Series Longiflora, and questions whether intermediate plants might be found between the Saboe group in northern Mexico and the Napina group in southern Mexico.

It would appear to be yet one more fascinating and rare discovery of new Mammillarias in Mexico.

http://mammillaria.forumotion.net/t2111-mammillaria-bertholdii-spec-nova

I haven't done much more digging since I'm at work, but I thought I'd share it. I have another plant on my want list now though!!!!

[hostilis]

http://www.cactusexplorers.org.uk/journal1.htm

[Optimystic]

its already been posted in the id thread a couple days ago lol

http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=39602

I would not be surprised if it gets renamed but im not an expert.

I agree that it reminds me of Ariocarpus tho alot more than any of

the mamm species I looked up, but again im far from having any kind

of expertise. I just have a few arios and look at alot of pretty photos

Edited August 21, 2014 by Spine Collector

[hostilis]

Totally missed that! Whoops. I highly doubt they will rename it as an ariocarpus. There are plenty of plants in other genera that have tubercles like ariocarpus, but that doesnt' mean they are.

Edited August 21, 2014 by hostilis

[hostilis]

If any of the mods want to merge this with the other that would be sweet.

Thanks!

[Optimystic]

any pics of a flat Mammy? I really can't tell if it is but just looks like a flatter cactus

the exotic hairs actually make me think of turbinicarpus but who knows

again im not expert... maybe even something completely different

is there any info that tells why its a Mamm? like perhaps the flower structure or

if its been able to cross pollinate with anything.. its still early I suppose

I know theres some relation between mamm and one of those two and perhaps epilantha or something

just shooting in the air tho not making any particular argument... I can see the body type better

in one of nuts pics... beautiful plant

wouldn't surprise me a bit if it ends up in another list

Edited August 21, 2014 by Spine Collector

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amg thats so fkn pretty!

i cant wait to grow some

[hostilis]

From what I understand a lot of what goes into placing the plant in the genus has to do with the area and what other species are in present. There are other mammillaria close by that are very unique like this one that they think it is related to. This dude had a little bit to say about it.

"It is a plant from Oaxaca, which has tubercles similar to Pelecyphora asseliformis or Mammillaria pectinifera, and flowers like Mammillaria saboe. It is placed by its author, Thomas Linzen, in the Series Longiflora, and questions whether intermediate plants might be found between the Saboe group in northern Mexico and the Napina group in southern Mexico."

The quote from the OP.

[myco]

yeh its easy to see why it has been lumped in with mammillaria just look at any pics of pectinifera and psuedopectinatus

https://www.google.com/search?q=mammillaria+pseudopectinatus&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=4GMBVMCkNZOLuASekoCoDQ&ved=0CB4QsAQ&biw=1366&bih=667

[Optimystic]

I already changed my mind on it...

I first searched a bunch of those listed species and since there are so many mamms i was seeing mostly the globular types

and then finally I looked a little harder a couple daze ago and saw a strange one that wasnt' a match or anything but shared

some of the subtle wierdness