hostilis Posted August 21, 2014 So there was a new species of mammillaria discovered just this year. Mammillaria bertholdii has been described in the 2/2014 issue of the AfM journal.It is a plant from Oaxaca, which has tubercles similar to Pelecyphora asseliformis or Mammillaria pectinifera, and flowers like Mammillaria saboe. It is placed by its author, Thomas Linzen, in the Series Longiflora, and questions whether intermediate plants might be found between the Saboe group in northern Mexico and the Napina group in southern Mexico.It would appear to be yet one more fascinating and rare discovery of new Mammillarias in Mexico. http://mammillaria.forumotion.net/t2111-mammillaria-bertholdii-spec-nova I haven't done much more digging since I'm at work, but I thought I'd share it. I have another plant on my want list now though!!!! 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hostilis Posted August 21, 2014 http://www.cactusexplorers.org.uk/journal1.htm 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Optimystic Posted August 21, 2014 (edited) its already been posted in the id thread a couple days ago lol http://www.shaman-australis.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=39602 I would not be surprised if it gets renamed but im not an expert. I agree that it reminds me of Ariocarpus tho alot more than any of the mamm species I looked up, but again im far from having any kind of expertise. I just have a few arios and look at alot of pretty photos Edited August 21, 2014 by Spine Collector 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hostilis Posted August 21, 2014 (edited) Totally missed that! Whoops. I highly doubt they will rename it as an ariocarpus. There are plenty of plants in other genera that have tubercles like ariocarpus, but that doesnt' mean they are. Edited August 21, 2014 by hostilis Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hostilis Posted August 21, 2014 If any of the mods want to merge this with the other that would be sweet. Thanks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Optimystic Posted August 21, 2014 (edited) any pics of a flat Mammy? I really can't tell if it is but just looks like a flatter cactus the exotic hairs actually make me think of turbinicarpus but who knows again im not expert... maybe even something completely different is there any info that tells why its a Mamm? like perhaps the flower structure or if its been able to cross pollinate with anything.. its still early I suppose I know theres some relation between mamm and one of those two and perhaps epilantha or something just shooting in the air tho not making any particular argument... I can see the body type better in one of nuts pics... beautiful plant wouldn't surprise me a bit if it ends up in another list Edited August 21, 2014 by Spine Collector Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
☽Ţ ҉ĥϋηϠ₡яღ☯ॐ€ðяئॐ♡Pϟiℓℴϟℴ Posted August 21, 2014 amg thats so fkn pretty! i cant wait to grow some Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hostilis Posted August 21, 2014 From what I understand a lot of what goes into placing the plant in the genus has to do with the area and what other species are in present. There are other mammillaria close by that are very unique like this one that they think it is related to. This dude had a little bit to say about it. "It is a plant from Oaxaca, which has tubercles similar to Pelecyphora asseliformis or Mammillaria pectinifera, and flowers like Mammillaria saboe. It is placed by its author, Thomas Linzen, in the Series Longiflora, and questions whether intermediate plants might be found between the Saboe group in northern Mexico and the Napina group in southern Mexico." The quote from the OP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
myco Posted August 30, 2014 yeh its easy to see why it has been lumped in with mammillaria just look at any pics of pectinifera and psuedopectinatus https://www.google.com/search?q=mammillaria+pseudopectinatus&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=4GMBVMCkNZOLuASekoCoDQ&ved=0CB4QsAQ&biw=1366&bih=667 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Optimystic Posted August 30, 2014 I already changed my mind on it... I first searched a bunch of those listed species and since there are so many mamms i was seeing mostly the globular types and then finally I looked a little harder a couple daze ago and saw a strange one that wasnt' a match or anything but shared some of the subtle wierdness Share this post Link to post Share on other sites