Idon'tstudydinosaurs Posted April 9, 2013 Hi all! I'm fairly new to all of this so some help would be appreciated. I've tried my first loph. graft I'm hoping all goes well. If anyone with more experience can tell me anything that may look wrong would be much appreciated. I used all sterile equipment and made sure there are no air bubbles between the scion and the rootstock. Is it now just a matter of wrapping it up in a plastic bag for some humidity and keeping it out of direct light for two weeks? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Idon'tstudydinosaurs Posted April 9, 2013 Sorry about the picture being on it's side. Frigin technology. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
quarterflesh Posted April 9, 2013 it needs to be forced down with glad wrap or rubber band or something to make sure it bonds or you might not have much success 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Idon'tstudydinosaurs Posted April 9, 2013 Righto, cheers for the tip. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gilligan Posted April 9, 2013 Stocking down to the spines, pulled tight. That'll hold it on. You prob went a bit mental with the side cuts too for future ref... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Idon'tstudydinosaurs Posted April 9, 2013 I had that in the back of my mind, but when I made the first slice I realized how sharp the razor was aha. Cheers. I now have a lackey over the top and it is covered in a sandwich bag. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoOnThen Posted April 9, 2013 I had a smart arsed comment about pantyhose ready to go but you beat me to it Gilligan. Cant beat a piece of panty hose or stocking for holding down a graft on Pach stock place it over the top hold in position then pull all of the sides down nice and tight hooking it onto the spines as you go. Place a plastic sandwich bag over the top for a few days and you will be all good. Cheers Got 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Idon'tstudydinosaurs Posted April 9, 2013 If I had pantyhose in the house I would use it but unfortunately the other half doesn't wear them and I'm not into cross dressing so pantyhose is out of the question. Perhaps I'll get the missus to buy some for next time if this one doesnt work out. What will happen if it doesn't work? Will it just shrivell and dry? How long until I know it has worked? Cheers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoOnThen Posted April 9, 2013 I buy the XL size pantyhose you get more material for your money. It should stay nice and plump. If it starts to dehydrate then it is more than likely a fail but if it is off center a bit so the vascular bundles cross and you are applying pressure I find the chance of a fail is quite low with that size scion and stock. Just keep an eye on it and post more pics if you are concerned. Cheers Got Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Idon'tstudydinosaurs Posted April 9, 2013 Haha cheers for all your help. Fingers crossed. If I replant the bottom half of the loph. that I used as the scion, will it heal and grow? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoOnThen Posted April 9, 2013 If it still has areoles then it should grow and push out new pups. Cheers Got Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Idon'tstudydinosaurs Posted April 11, 2013 Found some sexy lace to tie it down ;)..Fingers crossed. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Idon'tstudydinosaurs Posted April 11, 2013 Got into a grafting mood this arvo. and decided to try a second graft for good luck. This time with a larger loph. and a larger Pach. Feel more confident with this one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Idon'tstudydinosaurs Posted April 11, 2013 (edited) And yes that is pink ribbon. I had to raid the missus' craft box lol Has anyone tried grafting the rooted bottom half of the loph.? Edited April 11, 2013 by PerthShaman Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coolname Posted April 11, 2013 That second one looks good. I usually leave mine for about a week and a half then untie them. It seems to take less than a week for the graft to take. The button might go a bit soft at first but should swell up a bit after a couple of weeks 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Idon'tstudydinosaurs Posted April 11, 2013 Fingers crossed. I used the rooted bottom halves of the lophs and tried grafting them as well. There are areoles on them so I don't see why not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
endorfinder Posted April 11, 2013 Anyone else use syringe tips for grafts? My experience is very limited but it seems a decent method to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Idon'tstudydinosaurs Posted April 16, 2013 Just an update. I've taken the ties off (it's been around 8 days since I grafted). The first pic is of the loph. tops, the second one is of the root tip graft. The lophs themselves look greener and firmer than before they were grafted. Opinions? Successful or too early to tell? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
modernshaman Posted April 16, 2013 Sounds like it was successful. Firm and greener are good signs theres a good connection. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Idon'tstudydinosaurs Posted April 16, 2013 I'll be ecstatic if they work. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
coolname Posted April 18, 2013 Yeah i think its pretty safe to say it worked 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Idon'tstudydinosaurs Posted April 25, 2013 Hi guys, Just an update. Bit over two weeks on since I grafted. They are a dark green colour (the ipad makes them look grey), with some light green in between the ribs. The top grafts are quite firm, the tip graft is a little softer but still quite firm. I have them inside and under lights with the daytime temperature around 23 C. Can the graft still fail or will they be fine? Cheers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mutant Posted April 25, 2013 ^^^^^^ they look alright, but avoid getting the scions wet. the humidity chamber is not really necessary , in my experience it creates more failures than it ensures success. In the first pic , you have cut off lots of surface, you needn't expose flesh so much. This is asking for rot. Beveling [the rib edges] is done to get rid of the top areoles, not the whole surface area. also, isn't it getting colder round there? graft done in the begining or mid of growing season have better results and better percent of success than those done off season. End of season is ok too, but you wont be having any serious growth until next year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Idon'tstudydinosaurs Posted April 25, 2013 Yeh it is a little cold outside but I have them inside under lights at the moment. Temperatured is relatively warm around the clock inside so fingers crossed. I knew it wasn't the best idea doing it at this time of year but I couldn't help myself >. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mutant Posted April 25, 2013 "... but I couldn't help myself..." indicator you got the right kind of flu. carry on like this! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
