SBS TONIGHT 8.30

[shroomy]

Its a doco on the disapearance of 2000 taliban soldiers at the hands of american and northern aliance troops should be interesting.

[Happas]

YEah i saw the ad for it. Should be interesting

[planthelper]

hi, all!

albert hofmann writtes in his book lsd my trouble child (its on the net) a angelic

girl visited him once saying: one must give

lsd to the president of (whats it called that

place above mexico?) so there would be peace.

later the girl ended up in the loony bin.

girl i think you are right.

anyway, bush often cant find the words if asked something. he showes the "liz taylor"

syndrom his brain must be realy damaged from

alcohol abuse.

he claims to have stopped drinking after his 40 birthday (i saw him saying that on tv)

but who knows, remeber when they found him

collapsed? suffocated on a "brezel" my ass mr. president...

[Happas]

Watching it at the moment - seems like a quality doco thusfar...

Also cheeck out the movie on after world news. "Children of the Stork" - about car theives who rescue a stork and it starts talking. The fact that the local newspaper reviewer trashed it and said that "mainstream viewers will find little here to take their fancy" has convinced me it'll be brilliant.

[deaders]

Did anyone catch the movie on SBS last night at about 11pm called In July? Its a german movie and was brilliant, i really enjoyed it. Basically these people end up on a trip across europe encountering all kinds of strange people and experiences, one memorable scene was the main character (previously an up-tight teacher) smoking weed for the first time. Id love to get a copy of the movie.

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[Slippery_Noodle]

i meant to watch that doco on the 2000 missing taliban. It was interesting on the ad for it said that the maker were threatened and intimidated during the making. No wonder the US wants immunity from the international war crimes tribunal, they have so much to hide from teh rest of the world but the sad thing is that they can because pretty much anythign we see through the media is controlled in one way or another by america or people that need to keep a good relation with america.

I wouldnt mind getting a copy of that july show, it was real funny when the teacher was laying back with his pot smoken friend "floating" on the boat as they were going across a river under the moon.

Also while we are on the subject of things to watch have any of you seen a movie/doco called GRASS its all about the prohabition of pot and the crazy lies they made up to go along with it. Not to mention the crazy amount of money they spent on fighting it , i think it was somthign liek from 1988 till 97 it was 220 billion now imagine the good that could have been done with that rather than locking up some kids for having a joint with thier mates to relax, OH THE INJUSTICE.

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-Befor you critisize someone walk a mile in thier shoes, that way your a mile away from them when you critisize them and you have thier shoes.

[somnif]

I've copied the movie Grass onto SVCD, I'll

make a few copies for anyone who can cover

postage.

(Hmmm, perhaps what we need is a media library

set up in a similar way to the AFSR)

[planthelper]

oh, both movies i saw and agree with you.

sbs makes my live here better than ever before.

american movies are mostly just stupid bang,bang.

i dont know why but polish movies i rate the

highest on sbs.

those films i remeber even after years, whilst those movies at other channels are just crapp for brainwashed.

maybee the witnesses of jehova are right.

WAKE UP, mankind.

[Gwydion]

The question is- did anyone tape it????

I`ve been reading about and taling about this doco for months- ever since it was secretly shown to the German Bundestag and the UN- but they don`t really show sbs in Tena, or in any part of Ecuador for that matter.

ANYONE- PLEASE?

How was it, anyway.

[spiraleyes]

(Hmmm, perhaps what we need is a media library

set up in a similar way to the AFSR)

hmmmm sounds good,but possibly dangerous!

who'd be in charge of such an operation,you

[shroomy]

Originally posted by Gwydion:

The question is- did anyone tape it????

ANYONE- PLEASE?

.

Yes did anyone tape it becuase i know one particular dence putz who forgot to watch?.

[Veronica]

Originally posted by shroomy:

Yes did anyone tape it becuase i know one particular dence putz who forgot to watch?.

Shroomy u crack me up!

[t st tantra]

i have a number of videos,including the holy mountain ,el topo and skidoo that i'd be willing to lend for copying on to disc for a libary.also much of the sbs drugs week from a few years ago!

maybe discs could be posted state to state then handed person to person intrastate.

can anyone handle the copying?

would we need a librarian?

[Darklight]

Originally posted by t st tantra:

would we need a librarian?

It's certainly starting to sound that way, but wouldn't it get exxy once the ball got rolling- post etc? And possibly time consuming?

I'm sure it would be a resource that would expand rapidly in scope once ppl experienced its benefits. If anyone can come up with a solution, that'd be great

[somnif]

Once data (video/audio/books) are in a form

which can be stored on CDR media there is

really little cost in time or money with

respect to duplication.

You can copy a full CD in about five minutes

and blank media is ~50 cents.

The real hurdle is getting stuff onto into

a format which is suitable for CDR - DVD's,

Audio CDs and Audio Tapes are easy IMO

- however VHS Tape needs a capture card and

is not something I have experience with.

 

hmmmm sounds good,but possibly dangerous!

who'd be in charge of such an operation,you

well I am glad that from the couple of

minutes in which we met that if became clear

that I couldn't organise myself out of a

cliche

Converting stuff to CDR format is something

I could help out with, however, I don't really

have the time (dedication, personality type,

organisation, promptness (hey, this is

sounding a little like my year 9 report))

to be Librarian. Perhaps we clone off a copy

of Rev. with more of a digital bend?

And of course there is also the small issue of

copyright laws to be examined ;-)

(I am seeing Michael B. from Melbourne this

week who seems to have a very large ethno

related library so I'll ask if he has any

suggestions.)

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[nabraxas]

this is an excellent idea & it needn't be too expensive finacially(might be less expensive to have them downloadable?). time is the main expense. at the present i can't really offer any practicle help, but the support is there

[occidentalis]

Yes, I taped it.

If anyone is able to copy it, send it back, and cover postage, they're welcome!

[Happas]

also of interest on SBS this week is teh Complete plays of Samuel BEckett. Should be intersting though i've got no idea how the hell they're going to film some of them. I don't really know what to think of BEckett in general but the plays should make for some extremley trippy viewing if nothing else

[Guest reville]

Originally posted by planthelper:

maybee the witnesses of jehova are right.

Youve got to be kidding ! Are you drunk?

[Guest reville]

Originally posted by somnif:

Perhaps we clone off a copy

of Rev. with more of a digital bend?

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LOL!

I like that original idea of working state by state- all we need is the expertise at the begginning of the process - once we have the CD-R's its easy

Maybe if someone does have the necessary skills they wouldnt mind doing the work

sender sends difficult tape/CD media or copy with or without return postage to the person

They make 7 copies on a media like a CD-R that most of us can then duplicate and send to a few people willing to act as librarians who reimburse in CDs or cash the producer

The librarian then make available copies for a nominal fee on a CD to others or something like that.They can also duplicate the CD to CD material directly

Like the seedring, not a business, not entirely a charity either. Youll get an instant collection thatd make most people drool and costs are covered - even enough to subsidise your own media purchases.

Ill definitely be a customer - id lurv to have copies of some of the things ive seen on SBS

[somnif]

I should be able to get my hands on a capture card

with-in a week so should be able to do a test run

where I can at least see what issues comes up.

There is a question of what format to encode video

to; I prefer SVCD as it can be played on many newer

stand alone DVD players and most PCs (500 mhz+).

There will, however, be people who have difficulty

playing the format, but this is really the case

with any encoding format so the point is sort of

mute.

With respect to copyright issues, I think common

sense applys - video off Television I would regard

as okay, same with stuff which in no longer

available commericially or not available (nor

probably ever) in Australia. Recently released

stuff would be a no go area. These guidelines

are a bit grey perhaps, but a start.

There may be technical issues copying from

commercial video anyhow, with respect to the tapes

copy protection in the form of Macrovision. (I

know Macrovision can be defeated, it is more a

question of whether it is a good idea )

Also copying from NTSC video tape is an

impossibility for me.

As for the issues related to distribution and

making things fair, workable etc. I have no idea

or experience - I'll focus on the technical side,

which I do have an understanding of.

[planthelper]

rev

saying maybe the jehovas are right

was a joke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

man u are gullable!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hahaha,har,har,hihi..

[somnif]

Update:

I managed to get a capture card and work out most

of the issues with it. To go from VHS to SVCD is

something of a fiddly process but I think I have

mastered it.

I struck gold with Michael B. from Melbourne: I've

got seven or so Reefer Madness, LSD Freakouts style

movies from him which I have transfered or am in

the process of transfering.

There are also a number of documentaries (SBS,

ABC) on mostly legalistation related stuff.

Quality of the encoding depends greatly on the

source material and also how many minutes I've

decided to stuff on a single CD-R; 45 minutes

per CD-R (in SVCD format) is much better quality

than VHS and a bit below DVD - 60 minutes is a

little better than VHS quality - 75 minutes is

tolerable viewing.

Sound quality has been a little bit of a problem

due to the crappy spare VCR I have been using

(it was found on a nature strip during a council

hard rubbish collection) but I think I have mostly

solved the problem by pre-processing before

encoding.

When I have finished encoding this lot I'll post

a list of what I've got and then perhaps we can

work through some form of distribution of 'em.

I've got plenty of material to work through with

respect to the spare time I have, but in a couple

of weeks I would be interested if anyone has some

relevant video/DVD which they'd like to be encoded

(rude home movies will be accepted or declined

based on beauty, plot and aerobic dexterity )

I am also interested in Audio recordings - I have

collected a few relevant BBC radio doco's

(Plants & Medicine, Receptors etc) and also a long

Q&A with the author of Acid Dreams. You can fit

heap of audio in mp3 format on to a single CD

(say, 20 hours at voice quality) so let me know

if you have anything which might be suitable.

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