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PhoenixSon Posted May 21, 2008 In vipassana meditation we expierance lots of pain, What sort of meditation? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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PhoenixSon Posted May 22, 2008 I have been told with some meditation you can bring old reactions up from the unconsious, manifesting as something on the body,(Jung talked about and several others). the mind always clutches towards the gross, so bring it back to your breath, the mind gets suttler, so the mind gets suttler adn then your perceptions get suttler, pain dissolves into pressure, pressure desolves into vibrating vibrating turn into bubbles. Bubbles arising and passing very fast. do you think this is a good theory? don't know if this helps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ThunderIdeal Posted May 23, 2008 never experienced bubbles, heh, interesting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
serenes Posted May 23, 2008 I spacemonk i really like this description.. i often get pressures and pains as im drifting into a mindless state.. it feels almost like final parts of my physical saying "oi, pay attention to me!" sometimes i give in to it still, but as i remind myself and visualise my crown chakra being filled with universal loving light and watch this energy come into my body and fill and cleanse all my cells, the pain or presuure or whatever im feeling dissappears... like little bubbles floating off into non-existence.. i guess this may be (i feel for me anyway) that when i am in this meditative state the body and its aches are simply an illusion of the mind, and the mind is only an illusion of the spirit... and when i feel i embrace my spirit with ultimate wholeness i release any ties to my human form.... and all its human trappings (pain) diggin it the mind always clutches towards the gross, so bring it back to your breath, the mind gets suttler, so the mind gets suttler adn then your perceptions get suttler, pain dissolves into pressure, pressure desolves into vibrating vibrating turn into bubbles. Bubbles arising and passing very fast. do you think this is a good theory? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
serenes Posted May 23, 2008 Teljkon; i just thought also... that maybe you should look into what it means to have pain around your lymph nodes.. my initial reaction was that maybe you are having a little bit of difficulty understanding your spiritual self in human terms, and are therefor holding on to tight to your physical which blocks your spiritual from giving the answers to your requests... i hope i havnt spoken to freely? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PhoenixSon Posted May 23, 2008 Lovin it, serenes Im always amazed at how people percieve the world reminds me how relative everything is. if anyone is intrested in doing a retreat there is a place that offers free ten day retreats all around AUS and the rest of the world, heaps over in india, all is run on donation of money and time, check out dhamma.org also i find with meditation you can't expect anything you just observe what reality gives you, and whilst observing equanimously, it disintergrates. shine on Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
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PhoenixSon Posted June 22, 2008 Come i will save you wait wait you have to pay at the door. sad really, but there's heaps of this happening. some lovely info, http://www.pariyatti.org/podcasts/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
