Guest Zeus Posted February 21, 2002 Hello. I know hops can be grafted to MJ and THC appears in the hops. Now, can a hardy salvia species such as the sun loving splendens be grafted onto a divinorum rootstock and produce salvinorin in its leaves? Any advice?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
G Dawg Posted February 21, 2002 the graft might work but the hardy salvia will not produce anything extra in it's leaves than it already does. I have seen an interesting example in a grafting book of how a patch graft was done from a purple sapped ficus onto a white sapped ficus of same species. BTW the ficus is only an example as can't remember the one in book. It showed that the patch always bled purple and the rest of the plant bled white and no mixing of the colors occurred. Hope this helps. Later. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Zeus Posted February 21, 2002 Thanks for the reply. But in that case how is it that the hops starts to make THC when grafted onto MJ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
G Dawg Posted February 21, 2002 I don't think they did. Just another urban myth I think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Zeus Posted February 21, 2002 Yes you are correct. I've read something about the MJ/hops graft on lyceaum. Analysis showed that the hops part had no THC. I always thought it was true, because I had an expensive book 12 or so years ago which went to great detail on how to do the graft. I was hoping it would work. As you know, the weather here has been quite warm and the salvias ,although under shade cloth,are suffering badly. I need to finish making an enclosed structure to keep the humidity high. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adrian Posted February 22, 2002 You probably could graft S.divinorum to certain other species, however there would not be much point. I'd like to see it done though. If I could get the same growth rate and frost tolerance as S.elegans I'd be very. Mmmm pinapple flavored diviners sage Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
G Dawg Posted February 27, 2002 Originally posted by Zeus:As you know, the weather here has been quite warm and the salvias ,although under shade cloth,are suffering badly. I need to finish making an enclosed structure to keep the humidity high. Not in perth at the moment, just hope my plants are doing ok. Are your plants in pots or in the ground? I have some in pots and in the ground under shade clot. The ones in the ground are doing far better than the ones in pots. If you haven't tried growing in the ground I would definatly recommend it. Later. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest auto302823 Posted February 27, 2002 Originally posted by garret:Not in perth at the moment, just hope my plants are doing ok. My Salvia slpendens is really needing alot of water at the moment. As long as youur plants are getting the moisture they'll be fine. Also, obviously its not the same, but my splendens are doing much better in the pots than in the ground. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Zeus Posted February 28, 2002 My divironums are all dead on top. The perth heat was too much for them, although I watered every day. They were kept under shadecloth but not misted Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest auto302823 Posted March 5, 2002 Bummer to hear your sallies haven't gone so well, Zu. They really are another kettle of fish, I guess. My first two sallies shrivelled an died right away 8-) and I haven't tried since -- um -- hence the Seibert tincture. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Zeus Posted March 6, 2002 Never mind, I do hope one or 2 survive in their new environment. I'm hoping I get new shoots from the ground as they will look ugly otherwise. I bet you cant wait for that tincture to arrive. The days must feel like weeks.. I haven't personally used that tincture but have seen 2 lots of it, which another person (who occasionally posts here) ordered. Its a dark green liquid (unlike the photo on his site).He told me that 4ml is the minimum amount he needs for a decent trip. Later Zeus Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Andrew Posted March 6, 2002 I got some of d.siebert tinture last year but for some reason I keep forgetting to try it.Maybe some one who has tried it would like to give us a report. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest DragonFyre Posted March 6, 2002 has anyone tried growing their sallies indoors?? This is the first time I've grown them and in QLD it does get quite warm... and after reading all about the cultivation, a plant that needs only 20% filtered light should easily be able to grow under a window or something? This way it would also benefit the plant being outta the frost, etc and also create higher humidity levels then outside?? And like everyone says, plants are our best friends so make sure you talk to yours! (CO2 enrichment!!!) They'll love you for it! All the best in growing Dragon Fyre Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest auto302823 Posted March 6, 2002 Originally posted by Andrew:I got some of d.siebert tinture last year but for some reason I keep forgetting to try it.Maybe some one who has tried it would like to give us a report. I'll let you know tomorrow. I give D.S. the thumbs up; he's quicker than amazon.com Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest auto302823 Posted March 6, 2002 Originally posted by Zeus:Its a dark green liquid (unlike the photo on his site).He told me that 4ml is the minimum amount he needs for a decent trip. That it is. Phrases like 'decent trip' scare the shinola out of me I'll be starting moderately. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Torsten Posted March 7, 2002 Please see my post in the notices section! Salvia is now illegal. From my understanding of the law this means that everything other than the growing plant is now prohibited. The seeds will be illegal too, unless they are treated (??). Even the process of taking cuttings could be interpreted as harvesting plant material for processing. You have been warned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
waterdragon Posted March 7, 2002 must be irritating for the likes of siebert, ie having your business obliterated by the stroke of some fuckwits pen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest auto302823 Posted March 8, 2002 Originally posted by Torsten:Please see my post in the notices section! You have been warned. Thanks for the watchdog action Torsten. Maybe I'm still in another reality? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Adrian Posted March 9, 2002 Looks like there may be a good reason for grafting after all. Got a few months for trials anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Zeus Posted March 11, 2002 Originally posted by auto302823:I'll let you know tomorrow. I give D.S. the thumbs up; he's quicker than amazon.com So, any luck ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest auto302823 Posted March 11, 2002 Originally posted by Zeus:So, any luck ? Yep, the 2.25ml staggered dose my mate Dave took, resulted in much warbling of his brain, extensive OEV's, green folding CEV's with the room shrinking into the folds and zooming off to the left (as he'd heard expressed before). It all made Mike Hedges Aerial Boundaries sound very drippy for him. That sounds pretty 'decent'. He's now worrying about doubling that. [This message has been edited by auto302823 (edited 11 March 2002).] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Zeus Posted March 12, 2002 So he only took 2.25 ml in total ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest auto302823 Posted March 13, 2002 Originally posted by Zeus:So he only took 2.25 ml in total ? Yip, 3x.75ml each taken 4 minutes apart. The green dream rocks; I know this because my best mate Dave knows this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
