Hyphal Posted June 20, 2007 i think i might just go for the oil heater and leave it on overnight and off during the day. I think thats definitely the best option - I know a little while ago, Target had 'Linda by Mistral' brand, 700W, 7 fin mini oil heaters for $25. Thsi is the closest I can get to sourcing any info - Heaters by mistral - but the mini one isnt listed I'd put up a picture but I dont have a camera atm... Don't forget, if its in a reasonably enclosed space (like a large cupboard - just be very careful when playing with heaters in confined spaces), its thermostat will kick in as soon as temps are reached so it wont be on all the time anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ENtiTY Posted June 20, 2007 Those pins look like the ones SWIM used to get when her FC was in a place where it received in-direct light. If you provide a point, usually above, from which a source of light higher in intensity than any other the FC gets, the shrooms should grow relatively straight towards it. When the FC gets relatively low levels of light from multiple directions the shrooms tend to grow in circles. Just what SWIM has observed Re the water droplets, with increased temp you get an increase in the rate at which water vaporises and so and increased amount of water condensing on the FC. Cutting holes in the FC to allow CO2 to drain will only give you problems maintaining humidity unless you can keep temps elevated. Your FC setup being of an incubator design really doesn't lend itself to well to this approach. Since you have gone to the trouble of making a FC like this you would be better off going a lil further and adding a timed fan air exchange system. I'd keep the cycles low, every 2 hours or there abouts so as not to be constantly venting all the humidity. You could even go one step further and make a humidifier to humidify the air to be exchanged. You could then set an exchange frequency that is optimal like Hypha described, 4 times an hour. Depends how far you wanna go Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coschi Posted June 21, 2007 Thanks harry hmm I have a vision.. Fully automated FAE system.. Light/heat source built in.. Humidifier.. CO2 absorber.. really you could go as far as you want couldn't you (yes yes you could) any pointers on this stuff ? i guess if i had a humidifier i woudln't need to mess with perlite humidification right? if a 30W light bulb was mounted just on top of the lid, would that pose any issue? and the incubator design to keep temps up would still be fine.. how would one design a FAE system? timer.. fan, how to remove all CO2 in there? i moved the tubs, like this new pins already! i moved it last night.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Korky Posted June 21, 2007 Fc's in better position sphinx, when stacked one on top of the other i dont think light was ideal for bottom tub. im going to sound like an old man but just a warning to anyone using an electric blanket, they will get very hot when rapped back onto itself, their obviously not designed to be used in that configuration, im not saying it will burn your house down but if it did become faulty and their was damage your insurance will not cover you if its found your using an item like that in that set up. anyhting not to pay out of course. but then if their not edibles you probably dont need to worry about that anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coschi Posted June 21, 2007 ah another question when i take the lid off (to fan the container), there's a whole bunch of water on the underside of that lid becasue of the humidity, but when i lift it a far few drops tend to fall on the casing is that bad? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
soma_seeker Posted June 21, 2007 I think thats definitely the best option - I know a little while ago, Target had 'Linda by Mistral' brand, 700W, 7 fin mini oil heaters for $25. Thsi is the closest I can get to sourcing any info - Heaters by mistral - but the mini one isnt listed I'd put up a picture but I dont have a camera atm... Don't forget, if its in a reasonably enclosed space (like a large cupboard - just be very careful when playing with heaters in confined spaces), its thermostat will kick in as soon as temps are reached so it wont be on all the time anyway. thanks a lot HK, might make a trip into Target this afternoon and check it out Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
immanuel Posted June 21, 2007 (edited) ah another questionwhen i take the lid off (to fan the container), there's a whole bunch of water on the underside of that lid becasue of the humidity, but when i lift it a far few drops tend to fall on the casing is that bad? im pretty sure its not reccomended to let direct water touch the mushrooms. but if it cant really be avoided. so its not that much of a problem. btw to anyone who can asnwer. how much higher is my electricity bill going to be if i've got an electreic blanket running on low 24/7? Edited June 21, 2007 by mardybum Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coschi Posted June 27, 2007 Well well I'm wondering about that second pic, where there is that big empty patch there are lots of water droplets, compared to the first pic the second has significantly too much moisture i think.. here's a pic of the water droplets what can be done? be great to get a huge second flush wow just TWO big ones !! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Awaken Posted June 28, 2007 Sphinx Someone I know has the same set up as you but for fruiting turned the underwater heater up to 30dg and left the lid loose on the top and only did Fresh Air Exchange once or twice a day (fanning with the lid) for about 2 minutes............. The water on the lid was wiped off before fanning............... And then one morning! A forest of Mexicans............... Cheers Awaken Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ENtiTY Posted June 28, 2007 Impressive flush! Sphinx, if those are the shrooms I'm thinkin off then the proceeding flushes should be quite good At least thats the reputation they have. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coschi Posted June 28, 2007 Jesus christ man that's fucking massive !!! :drool: Harry, Indian so much i want to try!! Ps wet weight of those two flushes was 230grams Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
immanuel Posted June 28, 2007 (edited) Whoa! Awaken that flush is amazing. I'm so keen to try casing now, hehe. What sort of grain do you guys usually use? I'm thinking of using WBS in my next grow? Edited June 28, 2007 by mardybum Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Awaken Posted June 28, 2007 Mardybum No grain at all just Organic brown rice freshly ground in a coffee grinder. cheers Awaken Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coschi Posted June 29, 2007 I previously used brf / verm combination (pf style) but im really liking corn i case with 50/50 of peat-moss and verm Awaken what are you casing with? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Awaken Posted July 1, 2007 Sphinx, About 70% verm 30%coir and spraying daily (3 times) with a hand held fine sprayer until pinning starts. Cheers Awaken Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coschi Posted July 3, 2007 Awaken, you say spray three times a day.. do you have ay humidity in there also or is that where your cake gets its moisture? if i'm using perlite humidification then do i need to spray or vice versa? cheers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SunChaser Posted July 4, 2007 Just a quick question, if you were to have basically the same set up as Coschi with the fish tank heater as the heat source. Couldn’t you just attach a small inlet fan to your chamber and have it sucking fresh air though constantly. Then you’ve got that moist winter air that’s happening at the moment being sucked in to a warm little box, which equals high humidity, right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hyphal Posted July 4, 2007 I don't think there would be even close to enough humidity jabez - it would just dry things out waaay too much. Best to have the fan on a timer, for eg, 5 mins on, twice an hour or even once an hour. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SunChaser Posted July 5, 2007 I don't think there would be even close to enough humidity jabez - it would just dry things out waaay too much. Best to have the fan on a timer, for eg, 5 mins on, twice an hour or even once an hour. O.k, I'm thinking if you turn your fish tank heater up full and then connect it and a small inlet fan to a thermostate ( $100 from any hydro shop, but worth there wait in gold), you should end up having a consistant temperture and not have to worry about it any more. Unless your getting those 35 degrees days, in which case you could just transport your grow room in to a air conditioned room, how convienent growing fungi would be By the way well done Coschi they turned out nice, you guys really have inspired me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tonic Posted July 5, 2007 (edited) Not sure if that would work that well jabez? Why not just fan manually? What I do know is you can pick up a decent thermostat from jaycar for around $40 and have seen good ones on ebay too for less than $100. Edited July 5, 2007 by Phosphene_Dream Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gamma.goblin Posted July 5, 2007 I think you should be using the thermostat to control the heater, and as mentioned, control air exchange via a timer. You could always use an ultrasonic disc to add humidity. The problem with all the ones Ive seen is that they dont push any air, though you can easily knock something up. I made one of these for a friend years ago in the early PF TEK days: The cheap 20 cent valve controls the air flow, so you dont need all the condensing chambers seen in the original tek. As there is only the one condensing chamber, and it collects back into the reservoir, the water reserve lasts longer, and there are no bottles to periodically empty. Water level can be kept absolute by using a setup like one of those pet water stations, with the added benefit of longer periods between refills. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coschi Posted July 10, 2007 Single tray Second flush Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hyphal Posted July 10, 2007 Spectacular! Very beautiful results, sturdy, healthy and extremely *medicinal* looking fruits. Harvested at the perfect time as well IMO. Congrats mate!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coschi Posted July 10, 2007 hehe thanks man they do look tasty hey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SunChaser Posted July 10, 2007 how much and what size is the coffee grinder? can't seem to find one in the shops that aint attached to an espresso machine I got a breville Coffee 'n' Spice Grinder from kmart for 39.95, there not vey big but they do a good job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
