Ashoka Posted May 31, 2002 Hey all This salvia is not mentioned anywhere on the web as an psychoactive salvia, but it actually contains 11 triterpenoids which could prove interesting. Do any of you have access to the phytochemistry journal listed here? http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.f...9&dopt=Abstract Thanks Ashoka Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ed Dunkel Posted May 31, 2002 It's a very short paper. Shall I email you the pdf? E D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaNozz Direct Posted June 4, 2002 http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=MImg&_imagekey=B6TH7-40KB7S8-18-3&_cdi=5275&_orig=search&_coverDate=07%2F31%2F1997&_qd=1&_sk=999549993&wchp=dGLSzV-lSzBS&_acct=C00002 0278&_version=1&_userid=426478&md5=764bbb304c6b383e7995747a05579cc5&ie=f.pdf://http://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...579cc5&ie=f.pdf://http://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...579cc5&ie=f.pdf://http://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...579cc5&ie=f.pdf://http://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...579cc5&ie=f.pdf://http://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...579cc5&ie=f.pdf://http://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...579cc5&ie=f.pdf://http://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...579cc5&ie=f.pdf://http://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...579cc5&ie=f.pdf://http://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...579cc5&ie=f.pdf://http://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...579cc5&ie=f.pdf://http://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...579cc5&ie=f.pdfhttp://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=MImg&_imagekey=B6TH7-40KB7S8-18-3&_cdi=5275&_orig=search&_cov erDate=07%2F31%2F1997&_qd=1&_sk=999549993&wchp=dGLSzV-lSzBS&_acct=C000020278&_version=1&_userid=426478&md5=764bbb304c6b383e7995747a05579cc5&ie=f.pdf That's the link that I followed, you should be able to use that .pdf file if you can read the one Ed sent you. A thing I noticed - that molecule looks alot like cholesterol, testosterone etc. - come to think of it, so does the salvornin-a molecule … [This message has been edited by DaNozz Direct (edited 04 June 2002).] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DaNozz Direct Posted June 4, 2002 … or maybe it doesn't. Salvornin ACholesterol But Cholesterol and that Salvia molecule that they found look similar - damn similar, just a hydroxy, a double bonded oxygen and an ethyl group. I passed some time making some pictures for ye all. Black is Cholesterol, Red is that Salvia molecule that I couldn't be bothered finding the name for. I overlayed the Salvia molecule over the Cholesterol molecule in the 2nd picture (or the 1st picture in the middle row), and put them side by side in the 3rd picture (or the 2nd picture in the middle row). Yay. 10 dollars says the HTML stuffs. Oh, what a guess ! [This message has been edited by DaNozz Direct (edited 04 June 2002).] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ashoka Posted June 5, 2002 Interesting but what does it all mean? Ashoka Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gomaos Posted June 5, 2002 SLIGHTLY off topic: Does anyone have any information about salvia mexicana? I've got a specimen growing and it's going to seed... could it be psychoactive? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bloodbob Posted June 9, 2002 one thing you forget also is just in Cholesterol there are 256 setereochemical isomers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
