ramon Posted May 4, 2006 Wondering if anybody here has anything to say on bitter orange or Citrus aurantium. First found out about this when I did a search on medical database about fat burning and this was supposed to be as effective as ephidrine for fat burning. Cannot say that I notice any stimulation when I take this but very definate increase in pulse rate when I go riding. When I go for a ride ( with a heart monitor ) not worrying about my speed my pulse rate is around 140. If I bust a gut trying to go fast, it averages out around 160 BPM. This is the same sort of heart rate I get if I take some tablets which have the aforementioned compound in them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Torsten Posted May 4, 2006 yep, that's what I got too. increased heart rate and a bit of temperature increase. no entertainment value at all. been trying it with other legal stimulants, but have not found any pleasant synergy with anything ah yes, and it made me hungry..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tryptamine Posted May 5, 2006 yep, that's what I got too. increased heart rate and a bit of temperature increase. no entertainment value at all. been trying it with other legal stimulants, but have not found any pleasant synergy with anythingah yes, and it made me hungry..... Bitter Orange contains Synephine. I believe it may have trouble crossing the blood brain barrier or something, but with the addition of white willow (aspirin) to thin the blood is said to be effective. This is a key ingredient in many of the Amsterdam herbal X since the ephedra ban. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ramon Posted May 5, 2006 ECA Stack plus are the tablets I found with the highest amount of Bitter Orange at my local pharmacy. They contain European White Willow ( now I know why that is in there ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Torsten Posted May 7, 2006 how is thinnning the blood going to help a molecule cross the blood brain barrier??? sounds like someone made that up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tryptamine Posted May 8, 2006 Sorry, I was going on what I,d heard, hence the "or something'. Anyway, most formulas containing Synephine do also contain White Willow, which does thin the blood. Does anyone know the reason for this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
foolsbreath Posted May 8, 2006 Maybe to combat an increase in blood pressure caused by the synephine? Or maybe the thinned blood requires the heart to pump even harder, which the synephine compounds creating the desired effect Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rev Posted May 8, 2006 (edited) isnt bitter orange used to make marmalade? traditional breakfast fare along with other stimulants? i want one anyway mainly for grafting stocks "seville' is one yes? i know thats available http://www.howtodothings.com/food-and-drin...-marmalade.html Edited May 8, 2006 by Rev Share this post Link to post Share on other sites