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The one with dimenhydrate only gave delirium hallucination 2/3rd of the time if cannabis smoked about 1/2 the time to 2/3 if no cannabis is smoked. Have fun having to pee but being unable to, your skin is weird and dry. Constant cotton mouth but water just beads of your tongue like water of a ducks back. Don't do it alone if you can. I'd never suggest you shouldn't try something once but be as safe as possible. The difference between medicine and poison is the dose. Its not that great an experience you should risk your life over even a little. There is in my opinion much better OTC experience depending how you feel about disassociates(it is 1/3 split people either love, hate it or indifferant with higher plateaus (3n4 is were people seem most split on there opinions It has a number of plateaus each distinctly different, P1 n2 is like alcohol mixed with a little speed or mdma. low 3rd in my opinion is better them mdma for a rave or to go out. High 3rd is great for just turning all the lights out (not a day drug at all) listen to music and just let it flow. 4th platau is like a high third except that you can have out of body experiences and dejavu, feeling like when i open my eyes im on a tv show (Yes its the best i can explain it) On a TV show . kick back at night under stares is awesome as well. Its been described as halfway between ketamine and Phencyclidine (another useless explanation as i doubt there are many aussies who have had PCP unless a research analogue no superhuman strength or anger) never had PCP so not sure in what way its like it.

One brand is just hyoscine hydrobromide in a tiny box. which its been so long i forgot is a synonym for scopolamine. Thats the more lucidish one. The other has the hyoscine hydrobromide but an antihistamine dimenhydrinate as well as some caffiene these i've had up 1 and a half box but for me at 70kg 1 box was the optimal amount. Another option is a stomach cramp med with scopolamine butylbromide never had these but people smoke these in jail on foil. I'll won't name the brands as i've been on forums where no brand names or souces are allowed is that the same here? At least if your certain you want to expiriance tropane alkoloid its a greatly safer way then brewing belladone/henbane/datura This article is interesing give a guide to toxicity doses in 115 people lowest overdose was 2-4g of hyoscine hydrobromide but that is exception. a full box of ten is 3g hyoscine hydrobromide but people have much more. so safety wise try a few tablets incase your sensitive to it. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2747390/

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Well Certain Anti histamines and anti nausea meds have deleriant alkaloids but i don't recommend them, Teenage me only did them because i had never had access to a proper hallucinogen and they were cheap as hell. And i'm lucky to be alive not from too much but delirium tripping with benzos in the CBD. Got hit by a car in front of central HJ some random christian bought me a burger next thing i'm running back across the 6/8lanes i'd just been hit before hand some how didn't get hit again got into the tunnel 15min late im at ashfield then next thing i'm at lithgow at 6-7hrs later then i'm hitchhiking then in a car with some poor driver can barely talk rolling and smoking phantom ciggies and drinking phantom cups of water all the way back to sydney. If its something you must try a tripsitter who will stop you from doing what ever stupid b.s your thinking you will do that minute. Defiantly not friends who thinking that its that height of funny to get you to go buy smoke when you can barely talk or know were you are, forgot how to sit in a car or use a seat belt, or the main street isn't for people, or think the phonebox is were you live. Top mates hope they now have such stand mates that will put them in danger for giggles again this is with benzo with the other. Truly much better things out there if your of that persuasion, though scolipine was much more lucidish. still i imagine all of those are what dementia is like consistent confusion with brief windows of lucidity. I rarely had more then a packet, on rare occasion a packet and a half, i'm not dead but don't take that as a sign of safety lots of thing that could even should of killed me haven't. If i had to guess i probably did them 50 maybe 100 times over two or three years but never again so shit compared to anything else.

I know people make tea from the seeds, and i'd be very surprised if the rest of the plant was alkoloid free. Go look for vids of wallabies in Tasmania spaced out from eating the poppies. plus there is a mix of alkoloids in poppies, thebaine , codiene, morphine are the three i remember of the top of my head sure there are more (papervium, narceine and narcotoline) plus as Waterboy said the whole plant is harvested for extraction. Not sure why it is the prefer pharmaceutical route i'd of though using yeast bacteria to convert a start chemical in the presence of sugar, extract then convert to the desired compound(certain that how it's done in some Indian factories) One of my relatives who grew up in eastern Europe in 1960-70's says they used to boil the whole head to make baby teething relief like the more english alcohol on the gums except alcohol was to important for the adults to drink away there shit life. And Poles make what they call compote out of the whole plant to get morphine homebake. I imagine in afganistan the cost of regents to extract the straw isn't worth it. And the "Black Tar Heroin" from mexico isn't heroin its MAM which i one actyl bond off plus has lots of filler. So thats why the pods are scored since most is locally grown buy farmers its the easiest method for most return.

A Couple of bongs did get me pretty stoned, but Meth at the time made cannabis more effective so i'd be surprised if kratom's weren't somewhat more effect plus i'd never used kratom prior or for long enough to develop a decent tolerance. Only a guess after seeing how much is used for opiate withdrawal maybe what a 'recreational' dose was at the time is much smaller the the dose required to competitively bond on the opiate receptors relief of symptoms

Lotta Judges, Lawyer and Police,AFP,auxiliary staff, Prison staff would be out of a job if drugs were decriminalized or as i feel our bloated government has zero right to infringe on personal freedom so long as your not infringing another free will. The whole war on drugs is a farce like the war on terror or war on any other noun or inanimate object. We follow the American model with the attempts to undermine certain groups n cultures family system by incarcerating fathers for things that aren't crimes lead to increase generational drug and criminality. Drug prohibition doesn't work much like alcohol prohibition but fact and knowledge are for Idiots it seems. Sensible drug policy doesn't win votes speaking to peoples fear works so much better then there hope for a better world, they lose one group to demonize, they lose the fear of 'drug' related crimes, the fear of "Ice" psychosis and people doing things not of there nature because of drugs (Alcohol is the only thing that has done that for me every, ) sure if it was taxed and regulated and the government ensured the purity of the drugs which at Mass production are dirt cheap they would get rid of the random unknown quantity and quality of street drugs as well contaminants like mercury or other nasty side reactions like halogenated aziridines perhaps even following portugual's crazy system of treating drug addicts as human being, incentives for employers to hire drug addicts (To bad 5% unemployment is full employment go see N.A.I.R.U) and decriminalizing a crime against ones self (that mind bending concept of committing a crime against one's self) make them way safer then Alcohol or Tobacco. We are reward based animals, we won't inject drugs til we starve to death like mice and other primates will if give the option of selfinjecting or eating. Our search for our place and our creator? maybe even our advanced cognition might of been helped buy the consumption of serotonin analogue in nature allowing thoughts and perception we wouldn't conceived without there assistance. No room for nuanced reasoning in such a discussion. Plus who want people to think outside the carefully constructed box. Our closest ally(our suzerain if i'm being nice, or our colonial overload's if i'm being honest) the U.S.A are the jackbooted imperial thugs that Roosevelt swore to dismantle after WW2 they are the biggest sponsor of terror there intelligence service are always there to foster drug production and trafficking into usually into non u.s countries so there is plenty of off the books funds to "promote democracy" in another country because overthrowing or interfering with 80+ election or ruling government since ww2 isn't enough Democracy spread. (despite Americans being adamant they are a republic)(usual for the heinous crime of not allow U.S Corporation to rapaciously steal a sovereign country wealth. Always talking in double speak. Luck for the U.S.A these wars like all the u.s wars since ww2 aren't ment to be won (Well i hope this isn't the best the most advanced country with near limitless amounts to spend on ways to kill people can do, remember they 'won' ww2. if you discount the Russian herculean effort moving there entire industrial base half way across the country while in steady retreat.) , Weapons systems need testing, The Corporate oligarch (i prefer Corporate Serfdom now with the illusion of freedom and choice, plus a living standard high enough the peasant won't rebel even if they work out we aren't free) need you scared and distracted of those Crazy Muslims who hate us 'because of our freedom' and not because all the bullshit they sow and eventually reap. Or those North Korean who have a handful of nukes which the us and rumsfelt(the WMD Gopher) helped them get quicker by allowing and facilitating Westinghouse to build Nuclear Reactors in a country we are and they are still at war with. same friendly guy who who helped facilitate Some of Saddam's WMD . Or what ever the latest enemy of "freedom" is. Go back to sleep and be blissfully unaware i know i sometimes wish i could. Maybe i could even not rant and summarize my thoughts , nope that really is an unattainable goal.

First hand info regular smoker but i wouldn't smoke then drive, smoked about 12hrs before i was pulled over. failed the swab test, passed the 2nd test at the station fail the third test they sent away to the lab with i'd imagine would detect next to nothing. 12hrs later i'm not stoned. Still enough to fuck me. Also i've heard that chem i.e Gbh or Gbl? taken if your pulled over negates the swab test at least for meth. Also @Pat Uri Speed was mostly cut to hell stuff what was sold before 2000ish when the laws changed from hazy memory it was either to include inert substance as if it were the alkaloid or it was harsher sentences for the same amount of product so cutting it 10 or 15 to 1 ment huge jail sentences. So suddenly you couldn't by a gram for 50 it was a point for 50 still the same active ingredient. Can we call crystal meth just crystal meth or meth, i die a little inside every time i hear it called Ice. Ice which if you were lucky around 2000's was 4-Methylaminorex. Till it was co opted to mean crystal meth. Crystal meth(ICE) is just that uncut -d meth crystal. What monsters cut it with M.S.M it does bad things like helping your body detox all that lovely Meth.( i know the type thinks everyone is a moron,No crystals reforming in a syringe is not normal for non cut meth, Nah you don't shit that was pure (Maybe once upon a time) Now its even worse Mexishard is flooding OZ cut with Isopropylbenzamine starting 2017ish, At lest MSM or Sugar etc a simply dry acetone wash and all the cut is history. Isopropylbenzamine is so structurally similar, similar solvent solubility near impossible to separate plus never tested on human besides all the mexishard users now lol I blame the pipe smokers and the persistent urban myth that Crystal size denotes Purity. Iso make huge crystal's in size beyond what pure -d meth can ever make. Now every third batch is mostly just Iso cut with a speck of meth. Makes one wish for easy access to pure -d meth straight of the plate it was a crystalline power that make everything mediocre in comparison One can dream.

For me Top notch Meth made my 500mg -1g a day oxycodone withdrawals nothing worse then a bit of an acidic stomach and the occasional vomit. Coming off Methadone 150mg taped over a year down to 30mg was easy the switch to bupernorphin nearly killed turns out i'm deathly allergic to Naloxone. Long story short after anaphylactic shock for the naltrexon and almost suffocating at 1am trying to make it into the house to go back to hospital. Then my clinic told me to keep take for a week till they could see. No chance saw my g.p who gave me straight bupe to make till i saw the clinic, never went back detox from 12mg to 1/2 a mg over a week what a nightmare, made my outrageous oxy habit and meth assisted withdrawal a wonderful frolic. Have you tried smoking kratom in a bong? Also Ibogaine is used to rapid detox from opiates in Mexico and Oz. And some people even use loperimide the OTC anti diarrhea opiate that doesn't cross the blood brain barrier (not without another substance to smash it through into the brain) as a slow taper method for those without access to other opiate treatment. Best of luck which ever way you go. Also methadone does cause low testosterone any methadone proscribing doctor should know this. If not don't mention the methadone if its an issue, instead talk about your crippling depression, no sex drive and inability to get an erection. I got tested but under 10 requires treatment mine was 10.1 or 10.2. So i was stuck with those tops side effects but no treatment option.

Back in the day i smoked a fair bit of kratom cause my polypolydrug use no real reason. i loved to try new things. This must of been 2003-4 they sold it at the legal high shop in Newtown. To its painkilling effect hard to say as i was always on so much meth 24/7 to escape my chronic depression and chronic fatigue syndrome plus it was fun, meth will definitely make bad pain a memory also so good if one somehow becomes opiate dependent to remove 95% of the worst withdrawals . Kratom reminds me of cannabis without the euphoria just the stoned feeling also good for opiate withdrawal. For pain it couldn't hurt to try it is used for opiate withdrawal so I'd guess it bonds to some/all mu,delta kappa opiate receptors depend which ones and to what affinity. Pain management Opiates are the best while your tolerance is reasonable. 5-10mg of oxycodone would fix it for 4-6hrs until it don't then one day your taking hundreds of mg 4 times a day like candy. Pain management clinics also proscribe Ketamine in small doses for pain management usually with opiates it depends on the pain. Lyrica is used for nuropathic pain i believe. As well as Bupernorphine (not tolerance forming) and methadone(physeptone in tablet form) are used for certain pain types maybe something mild like tramadol will help. Then the is cannabis decent painkiller. I'm guessing you'll require a number of things as different pain requires different methods of attack. See your GP ask his advice if he is unwilling to proscribe what you need ask for a pain clinic referral. Hope you find what works for you. If it is opiates use the least possible and only when your the pain isn't manageable. Trust me opiates will steal your emotions, numb you and dull your cognitive function when taken in large amount for long periods.

Fellow Catholic Indoctrination survivor. I'm from a very religious eastern European family one off the Hardcore eastern bloc countries sure it isn't a huge secret. My grandma's dream was i become a Priest. But pederasty and molesting kids aren't any of my interests. all jokes aside we prayed decates of the rosary daily knelt in front of the 'virgin' mary and as religious nut s we also did the bonus prayer like Sait Michael the archangel and the blessed virgin. Church every Sunday as well as all the bonus days like ash wed, all saints etc i'm no scholar i have read the bible 6 or 7times have many smart friends who love to discuss religion aswell as being rather curious about the nature of divinity, creation vs evolution, church history, the role of religion in pacify or manipulating the masses. I'm now more convinced that we are the creation of advance aliens then made by some invisible spirit in 7days. What the fuck am i smoking you probably ask. OK lets start with the major old testament stories which all have analogs in Sumerian civilization from for our creation from the clay aswell as adam n eve the serpent to Noah's and the ark,Sodom and Gomorrah, Sumerian believed they were created by living gods (yes plural) these same gods are the gods of the Babylonian, the Assiryian, the Greek, the Roman and i believe the Egyptian. Even the vikings probably the Aztec and others. Every lightning god, water god, serpent god etc come from these Sumerian as best we can tell. Sumerian believe there living gods that walked as you or i among them, made them as slave labour to replace rebelling what we will call lower eschalon Annunaki who grew tired of manual labor on this distant colony outpost. When the gods arrived there were three the father and two son. Enki and Enlil they first settled the Tigris river delta in search of gold. while the father in the heaven remained up above. they were hear long before us. Enki was given the southern hemisphere sometimes mistranslated later to be the underworld of Hades etc and domain over the water, form this point he's also know as Ea. Enlil is give domain over the northern hemisphere and the air and lightning. These gods seem just like us with all our moral and ethic eccentricities, they loved and fought were kind and cruel, married there half sister, killed and raped. Just they are always depicted as giant's next to man.(the angels from the bibles and the rebellion after we are created then beacame more then intead same as the giants that bred with humans). After the worker almost rebelled they begged Enlil for some tool to be made to grant them respite. So Enki and A Female god are tasked with doing this, first the tried to create a worker in the mold of the Minotaur or the sphinx but while strong they were not smart enough to work unaided. So eventually they start on us, taking a earth primate and melding there dna into it, we were created in there image out of mud. After more failure Sumerian adam adapu is made as well a sumerian eve. Smart enough to slave not smart enough to truely concieve of self and reason. Then one day Enki also known as the serpent god because they were a sign of knowledge and wisdom. Told eve to eat from the fruit of the tree of knowledge, this gave us true understanding of being like our gods, Enki did this against the other gods which a reoccurring them that our "creator" loved his work more then just as slave labour tools to mine. Also Sumerian same all there knowledge was gift by these goods from writing cuneiform on clay to making beer, astronomy metallurgy, maths ,astrology,bicameral congress even there 12based number system(maybe it is 60 i forget) Even the famous Hammurabi's Code of Laws was a gift to Hammurabi. Eventual the ruling gods of which there were always 12, with 12 lesser gods same as most if not all the subsequent religions had as well never 11 or 13 when one was lost another took this place. This reoccurring sacred number of 12 or multiples of 12 is very present from there belief the gods are from a 12th planet in the system, 12 signs of the zodiac, 12 months in the year. 12tribes of isreal, human's being limited to a life span of 120yrs, there are more but this of the top of my head This must seems pretty outlandish so remember this is all been interpreted by stone age/bronze age man so they record this advance tech to the best of there ability. These living gods are depicted with wings that strap on to them or with dolphins like pilots and admirals are to this day. They can go at will to the heaven up to god in heaven enki and enlil father, they can travel great distance. Same people who turned Sodom and Gemorrah to salt. had weapons of great destructive power, could summon the element the commanded. they fought jealously among themselves as for the little bags they are often depicted with as a source of knowledge. Much more happens like the tower of babel etc but eventually the other gods realize an impending flooding catastrophe is imminent and decided to leave us for the heavens to be wiped. Enlil asked enki were his loyalty lies and is made to promise not to warn his creations of the disaster. Enki keeps his promise but does tell zasudra summerian noah to build a boat when asked why Enki spoke no more. The flood comes wipes the earth clean of us besides noah who drift for 6days until sending abird and landing on mt arrarat. Enlil is enraged but Enki placates him and noah is sent to the heaven where the father lives and is create eternal life. Much of this comes from The book the 12th planet by Zechariah sitchin and some of his interpretation are debated. Even if the debated portion are excluded there is too much smoke one assume there could be a fire. But they are from clay tablet and stone steele from the Babylonian and Sumerians. It's probably not a coincidence that Abraham the father of 3 religions lived in Babylon. Scientist today still are looking for this planet x that Neptune and Pluto's orbit suggest is out there. the Sumerians believed every 3600yrs or a shar. The home of the gods is near earth it is the seed of life on our plant the cause of asteroid belt the collision with what they call tiamat spawn the earth and moon. Putting us on a delayed evolutionary path then the gods. The gods never return one day, then we went from worker to worshiper of there 'Godhood' more so as time goes on and the story is added to and changed. We diefy these Technological people. Eventually Christian had the whole trinity which i think represent The Father and two sons. My god up in heaven literally up in heaven. More thing are changed to suit the people of the time, eve is vilified for excepting Enki's apple of knowledge. Like out the traditional genesis story all the way to a virgin women is impregnated an angel. Births the king of kings to be forsaken and crucified to forgive us of our sins. or Advance beings genetically engineered us as workers, then got a bit attached to there creation gave us true consciousness and reason and saved us when were no longer useful to the rest. Both are outlandish except one is actual something that is possible for us to do in 50-100 yrs with further advanced technology. The quote "Sufficiently Advance technology is indistinguishable from Magic" springs to mind. Sorry for the rambling post i don't touch on many things from the Sumerian Creation Story or The Epic of Gilgamesh.

Congrats on make the choice to get of methadone maybe look into ibogaine treatment for opiate withdrawls if kratom isn't for you, Have you tried smoking kratom it always reminded me of euphorialess cannabis. Buphrenorphine was my go to once i got down low enough. I was on 150mg for 5years before i slowly reduced over 3yrs down to 30mg, jumped over to suboxone having been years ago on subutex without issue. Worst mistake i could make apparently i'm deathly allergic to naloxone musle seizure face and mouth swelled so bad i couldn't talk properly, hospitalised twice in one night almost suffacated the second time two hrs after they discharged me on the front driveway at 1am. Then my clinic which only has a doctor in once aweek suggested i jump back on methadone the following week and to just keep taking the naloxone/bupernorphine till then, as only pregnant women can have subutex. Lucky my g.p gave me enough subutex till i could get back in to the clinic doctor. I told the clinic this they complained to the medical board and they warned him if it happened again he would become a restricted proscriber. This is the same doctor who was the only one to provide a maintence dose for my gram a day oxycodone habit while i waited to get on the program., even after being busted doctor shopping up and down the coast. While other doctors wouldn't even see us after that. I was outraged how my clinic treated my g.p and never went back i just spread a week of 8mg subutex out over two weeks, made sure i had lots of temazapam for the last week and first clean week as well lorpirimide(gastrostop) which is a opiate that doesn't cross the blood-brain barrier. sorry got a bit off topic

I found a whole patch of these mushrooms growing in freshly cut lawn in the shoalhaven. nsw i can't workout what they are. they don't stain blue any help would be greatly appriciated