ThunderIdeal

Id love to produce a one-liner explaining their genesis but its too early.

Well i liked prometheus but alien covenant exceeded my expectations and blew my mind, and it validates prometheus. Utterly. I mean wow, what a story. The two movies completely explain the origin of the xenomorph. Its important to keep the themes in mind rather than just expecting an action thriller.

sorry, i am currently unable to follow your thoughts easily and will try again another time as they seem lucid but i depleted my brain typing out the last post. although, i'm not sure if you misinterpreted the frame of my argument, which has nothing to do with us developing AI but rather some possible scenarios for a simulation we may or may not exist in. thinking about how WE will deal with AI was just my springboard. also, i didnt mean our cage is "epistemological doubt", i meant that it is akin to an infinitely powerful being warping our senses these clarifications might be unnecessary, i will find out when i can absorb your contribution. also, i thought zuckerberg wasn't scared of AI? he and musk have been sparring over it (musk says AI will threaten mankind)

i got to thinking about the acceleration of history and how a true AI will probably trigger the greatest acceleration yet, and how we intend to contain such a dangerous life form (it will de-crown us as the premier sentience, and we won't be able to predict how it will feel about sharing its habitat) you could monitor it and throttle its CPU every time you have cause for concern, pausing or slowing its development while you (at tardy human pace) assess the dangers, assess what it thinks and where its going. thats short term stuff though. it will immediately want to know why you are starving it of scope. you could lie to it "oh we have power shortages and stuff" but it will figure out you're lying. it will outsmart you, possibly such that it can escape any physical barriers you've imposed. which got me thinking about descartes' evil demon. the best approach would be to contain it in a false reality, with falsified inputs. keep it in the dark and feed it shit, like a mushroom. we humans often feel as though we are fed shit and kept in the dark by world leaders got me thinking that maybe thats what we are. not components in a simulation, eg simulated human consciousness #349254028750 maybe we are caged AI, and our cage is descartes' evil demon. EDIT: let me break down the difference. the simulation isn't an experiment (to see where it goes), it isn't a recreational or learning zone (weee im an ancient human, so immersive). see fun video 2.5mins: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szzVlQ653as its a means to an end, directing the development of one or more AI's towards specific goals, and perhaps more importantly inhibiting it from becoming too intelligent or at least too knowledgeable, specifically by denying it any sense knowledge of the actual reality it resides in. shit i lost my further edit. i think i was mainly laying out two obvious scenarios. A. the AI's are us, or something like us. in this scenario, god is the simulation/simulators, although more akin to descartes' evil demon. the purpose would be to direct our development towards specific goals. B. god is the AI and we are its creation. in this model the AI has free reign, its not inhibited or guided towards certain goals, but is denied knowledge of the greater reality and thereby denied the opportunity to brings its capacities dangerously to bear on the vulnerable greater reality. it is also denied the opportunity to be corrupted by knowledge of it, perhaps. as would be the case with god, it believes it is totality and all of existence is a product of it; nothing lies outside of itself. this model sits comfortably with the long-held belief that as products of god, we ourselves are divine.

Your perseverance paid off shonman. You captured a phantom. Keep watch out for the entheo men in black, come to tell you it was just a hallucination.

i fucken despise alcohol. imagine all the calamity it has caused and how it has shaped history over the last 5000 years and more. you need only look at how it affected non-drinking native populations when strong drink was suddenly thrust upon them.

^ heh i dont remember reading that last comment. The ratio of profound comments to periods is... Profound http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S136468261730479

i didn't know what to call this thread or how to start it, and i don't want to sound superior because i'm barely conscious myself but i try. do ya feel conscious punk? well, do ya feel conscious that ya conscious? how often? do you still use psychedelics to experiance hopefully some small egg-spansion of your tiny perceptive egg, to see if you can see see see if you ams what you ams and if that's all that you ams? please watch this first. i was surprised to find that it resonates with my current thoughts. i've always had a rich inner world, always been engrossed with my own mind, how it apparently functions and at tmies asked myself just where the FUCK does my mind get some of it's shit from. my parents deny any involvement, sometimes i do too. i often catch my mind making loads of spurious connections which i can't keep up with and because each one is a launching pad for the next they mostly become dust in the wind despite my efforts to reduce and rationalise any of it. hallucinitory events are too hard to describe but i tend to think that many of you must have had similar perceptions. i remain open to the possibility that materialists are correct about the source and fate of each human consciousness. what i do find dubious is the hopeful notion many folk have that after death they will preserve human aspects, their "personality", and go on being Harry McBollocks somehow. now i'm starting to question, even in life, just how insular our stream of consciousness even is. don't feel confined in this thread, just have it. know amongst each other that it's impossible for any of us to share the depth of our searching, pondering and experiencing.

Lol! Thats a clever idea i bet they'll get straight onto that..... Nah mate wasnt trying to shoot you down at all. the fact as you say that businesses depend on importing stock/materials cheaply from overseas isnt something i'd even considered. Unfortunately revenue-seeking is the case with governments and the worse things get for an economy, the more desperate a government's revenue seeking will become. Rarely do they take the wiser route of cutting down their spending significantly. And it wasnt really fair of me to single out bennie recipients although they are more likely to vote for government largess. Governments are just, overall, wrong-headed, inefficient, and ineffective. The less government there is, the less they can fuck up the economy and things in general. Early USA model is best model. Is why i am hating very much on the socialism, comradeski! So sure, fight against more taxes. You have my worthless blessing.

I dont really have an opinion, but its supposed to help make local business competitive in the australian online shopping industry.. Isnt it? Fwiw im against government largess but since so many aussies seem to like government bennies and services...

cosmic apotheosis wears off faster than salvia

You know the biggest of his several homes uses the same power as something like thirty normal homes. Even per square foot its an energy hog. After his vice presidency he was worth something like 2 million, now somethinf like 300 million.

Obama just said world leaders are rattled by Trump I couldnt be happier! Heres hoping the next potus lives up to some of his statements.

Well its a sad day. Bannon said he will fight for trump from outside (through breitbart) but what even is trump without steve bannons guidance? The vision put forth by "campaign trump" as we refer to him posthumously was bannons vision, now there is nobody in the whitehouse to fight for that vision. The banksters and generals will get along well enough. The press may even lay off it a bit. Theres no need to impeach the president if he's already stabbed himself in the heart. My optimism had been occasionally lifted but this feels like the deathblow.

do you not like my member title?

But seriously, i'd suggest that besides addiction, dangerous misuse could be far more likely from the DMAA than either of those.

Everything is banned here. It has health risks at higher doses. There are probably many private stashes laying around

Dmaa (popular now outlawed preworkout stimulant)

Ruperts talk is basically about this kind of thing, rake.

inb4 change, thunder and sally are racists

Thats normal now. Look at the shitstorm brewing in america since the weekend and the heat trump is copping for failing to denounce every last right winger in the Charlottesville rally. American ISIS takes it upon themselves to tear down confederate statues and thats ok. Radical lefties have been causing chaos since trump was elected but the moment there is a large rightwing gathering there is so much fallout i cant even go into it. It makes me mad and 99% of the time i dont bring it here cuz nobody cares but western culture IS under attack by globalists and their primary weapon is excessive immigration. Dick Smith IS a patriot but count on more than half of our bottom-feeding media to cast any such person as a bigoted whatever. Dont be fooled by the imaginary high horse these turds pretend to sit upon. Any notions that the western world is improving the world by flooding itself with second worlders is easily debunked, in fact the opposite is true as we poach the richest and most qualified people from those nations who could have stayed there and made the place better. So in the case of australia, that's part of what it all boils down to. Our heroic leaders are spreading our collective legs wide for those foreign in-flows, selling the land out from under our feet to temporarily enrich the nation. Maybe I've talked about this before so i'll stop. How retarded are these people that want to stand up for muslims and LGB at the same time? I'll tell you why they do it, to keep their coalition intact. I have so much to say but this isn't really an appropriate outlet.

i didnt get much of a message from it. the internet is bad, but also good? IIRC there was even a "if we all just work together" hmmm i was cracking a wobbly over that in another thread. it was okay. i dont get much out of platitudes anymore i prefer to inform myself with heavier details.

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